Anyone fitted a Range Rover engine? Sacriledge?
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Hi
Any reason why a Range Rover engine cannot be fitted to a Wedge. I assume they are lower bhp/poss higher torque, but if you're a cruising type driver, is there any actual practical reason for not doing it? (eg newer 4.0 V8, would it need new ECU, air flow meter etc?)
Anyone know what the relative bhp/torque figures are for the variations of engines out there?
Just musing, as the 350i project has dropped a valve, so depending on damage the rebuild expenditure may make it as cheap to pick up a second-hand engine and chuck that in.
SF
Any reason why a Range Rover engine cannot be fitted to a Wedge. I assume they are lower bhp/poss higher torque, but if you're a cruising type driver, is there any actual practical reason for not doing it? (eg newer 4.0 V8, would it need new ECU, air flow meter etc?)
Anyone know what the relative bhp/torque figures are for the variations of engines out there?
Just musing, as the 350i project has dropped a valve, so depending on damage the rebuild expenditure may make it as cheap to pick up a second-hand engine and chuck that in.
SF
You could always give these a call, 4.0 and 4.3 pre serp engines for sale.
www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?i=26720&s=7
Andy
www.pistonheads.com/sales/detail.asp?i=26720&s=7
Andy
In 1994 I was working for Lucas on a Variant Reduction Project (We were looking at tools available to help designers stop making another version)
I had an meeting with a contact at Land Rover (they were using a software tool from a company in Aachen) and they explained how they had 360 versions of V8 engine in production, not including previous now obsoleted versions, which accounted for some 1000 versions.
Obviously the differences between some of the versions were marginal, like a different oil filler cap, but other versions were vastly different like the low compression (will run all day on tree sap, with no coolant in the desert) for the australian military market and the high compression, big valve over bored race engine with titanium head bolts.
Then later I was involved in a project where i went to an automation supplier in Nottingham and they had an engine test machine for Lode Lane and 10 engines of different versions all with a known fault, in order to check that the machine would run with the fault.
This is a long winded attempt to say : If the spec and price seems okay go for it.
I had an meeting with a contact at Land Rover (they were using a software tool from a company in Aachen) and they explained how they had 360 versions of V8 engine in production, not including previous now obsoleted versions, which accounted for some 1000 versions.
Obviously the differences between some of the versions were marginal, like a different oil filler cap, but other versions were vastly different like the low compression (will run all day on tree sap, with no coolant in the desert) for the australian military market and the high compression, big valve over bored race engine with titanium head bolts.
Then later I was involved in a project where i went to an automation supplier in Nottingham and they had an engine test machine for Lode Lane and 10 engines of different versions all with a known fault, in order to check that the machine would run with the fault.
This is a long winded attempt to say : If the spec and price seems okay go for it.
No reason at all, unfortunately for me the person who owned my 350i previoulsy did just that. He had a big quote from the TVR centre for a rebuild and decided an out the crate 3.9 was cheaper. You only get standard Land rover valves etc. Mine put out 180bhp and 333ft/lb of torque @ 2750 rpm on the dyno whilst running very very lean. I keep thinking about playing with the heads and cam, but am reasonably happy with the performance at the moment.
Mick
Mick
Just a quick update. Removing the cylinder head revealed that the head of the valve had snapped off, flipped over and embedded itself in the top of the piston ala discus in the ground style
. Comment from our mechanic was to remove it, polish it and put it on a stand as it was very impressive and would make a nice conversation piece. As it was an inlet valve, lumps of metal had been sucked into the plenum chamber then sucked back into the other ports so 2 of the other 3 cylinders also had bits of metal in them and dents around the edges of pistons etc. I'll give my wife her due, if she does something she does it well. So economy probably dictates replacement engine.
Steve/Jeff (or anyone else with experience), I have my eye on a 4lt serpentine engine complete with all ancilaries. How much 'fettling' involved to fit? I am assuming wiring needs re-routing but will I need a new ECU and is it neccessary to move much stuff around. The car doesn't have power steering so the reservoir is not an issue. Any help would be appreciated.
Jerry
edited to absolve wife of all blame for incident, spring breaking under normal useage is apparently very rare, and she'll kill me if I don't add this!!!!!
>> Edited by suffolkfox on Friday 6th August 12:28
. Comment from our mechanic was to remove it, polish it and put it on a stand as it was very impressive and would make a nice conversation piece. As it was an inlet valve, lumps of metal had been sucked into the plenum chamber then sucked back into the other ports so 2 of the other 3 cylinders also had bits of metal in them and dents around the edges of pistons etc. I'll give my wife her due, if she does something she does it well. So economy probably dictates replacement engine. Steve/Jeff (or anyone else with experience), I have my eye on a 4lt serpentine engine complete with all ancilaries. How much 'fettling' involved to fit? I am assuming wiring needs re-routing but will I need a new ECU and is it neccessary to move much stuff around. The car doesn't have power steering so the reservoir is not an issue. Any help would be appreciated.
Jerry
edited to absolve wife of all blame for incident, spring breaking under normal useage is apparently very rare, and she'll kill me if I don't add this!!!!!
>> Edited by suffolkfox on Friday 6th August 12:28
Thanks all
I let the 4 ltr go in the end, as the price was reasonable but I would have had to find or modify a loom and get a new ECU, plus all the fun associated. Looking for a 3.5 SD1 engine (or roughly similar) to keep it as original as possible, plus having the early trailing rear end, don't want to put too much power through it anyway. So anyone got anythin lying around that may do the job, feel free to suggest a price
I let the 4 ltr go in the end, as the price was reasonable but I would have had to find or modify a loom and get a new ECU, plus all the fun associated. Looking for a 3.5 SD1 engine (or roughly similar) to keep it as original as possible, plus having the early trailing rear end, don't want to put too much power through it anyway. So anyone got anythin lying around that may do the job, feel free to suggest a price
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