Looking for Cossie 2.9 Engine/Car.
Looking for Cossie 2.9 Engine/Car.
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grahamw48

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9,944 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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I've now decided to go ahead and get a Cossie 2.9 fitted, so I have a bit more power, unleaded, and a 5 speed box.

Please let me know if anyone spots such a spare part !

I'm hoping that RT Racing will be able to do it for me,
and fix any other ailments they may find

I'm watching a couple of items on Ebay.

Hopefully the conversion can be completed while we still have some summer left

She's under her blanket at the moment, due to the clutch-slip, and our wonderful weather.

wedg1e

27,006 posts

287 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Morning Graham: you turning into me, with all this middle-of-the-night posting?

Ian

grahamw48

Original Poster:

9,944 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Haha - knew you'd still be up

I always turn in at 1am.

I've got redeye from scanning Ebay for the last few days though.

Just itching to get started on this engine swap.

Yes I will get everything else beefed up, before you start nagging !

wedg1e

27,006 posts

287 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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grahamw48 said:


Yes I will get everything else beefed up, before you start nagging !


Not at all; it's your car. Even the likes of the AC Cobra had some, erm, suppleness...

grahamw48

Original Poster:

9,944 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Put my back out last week, so the wedge certainly has more 'suppleness' than it's ageing owner

I'll certainly be fitting the strongest ujs I can find,
renewing bushes, and uprating the brakes (which are crap!). Chassis will be strengthened if necessary.

( I still recall the embarrassment of busting the chassis on a Dutton B plus I had years ago, during a mad blast around York city centre. Gave the spectators a laugh when the thing collapsed in a heap right outside the nightclub entrance )

The car has Konis all round, and handles really nicely,
so I may leave springs and dampers alone for the moment, unless something is found to be broken.

I now just have to cut my outgoings down to about tuppence a week, to pay for it !

shnozz

29,933 posts

293 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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graham - I would be very interested to hear of your progress as I am trying to sort the same conversion on an S. A friend of mine previously had the conversion done to his 2.9 S by Peninsula but they have failed to reply to my e-mails.

I too have been scanning ebay for a suitable donor!

grahamw48

Original Poster:

9,944 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Hi shnozz !

Sure, I'll post a progress report on the forum.
I have personally done several transplants in the past,
but this time I'm just too busy with work.

So we're probably bidding against each other.
Oh no!
You're bound to be loaded !

Maybe I can have the crumbs ?

shnozz

29,933 posts

293 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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grahamw48 said:
Hi shnozz !

Sure, I'll post a progress report on the forum.
I have personally done several transplants in the past,
but this time I'm just too busy with work.

So we're probably bidding against each other.
Oh no!
You're bound to be loaded !

Maybe I can have the crumbs ?


loaded. I dont think so! completely skint mate so its a battle of the pennies

No, seriously though, feel free to e-mail me if you are bidding on something and I'll hold off or whatever. At teh end of the day, its pointless to line the pockets of the seller between PHers so may as well contact each other if we are both bidding on an item.

To be honest I doubt my conversion would start until winter and its something that is going to have to be carefully considered. My mates conversion was to a later S with a wider track, upgraded (read stronger!) chassis and better brakes. The earlier S has all these stumbling blocks before the engine transplant can even be considered and I will have to address these points before considering.

grahamw48

Original Poster:

9,944 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Sounds a good idea.

As far as beefing up goes, I suppose it depends on driving style. We're only talking an extra 40 horses here.

As I have now evolved into a middleaged old fart, with CAREFUL imprinted on my forehead, the chance of ripping out the back axle, or frying the clutch is pretty remote these days.

SEVANS

1,178 posts

289 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Have you been on the RS owners Club website??
www.rsownersclub.co.uk/
You need to register, but it's free. Go to the Forums at the top of the home page. There are loads of parts for sale and a technical forum. You could also post a wanted ad. Most of it is for RS Escorts, Fiestas and Sierra Cosworths but it does cover the 2.9 V6.

grahamw48

Original Poster:

9,944 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Many thanks - I'll do that NOW !

rev-erend

21,596 posts

306 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Graham - there is also a set of fast road cams up on ebay..

This one has already been fitted to a tvr 'S'

grahamw48

Original Poster:

9,944 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Thanks, I'll have a look.

Hmmm - that looks tasty !

Maybe I should look for a 'marinised' one, wot with this lousy weather !

shnozz

29,933 posts

293 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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grahamw48 said:
Hmmm - that looks tasty !

yep, thats the one i was talking about - my mate Grahams - posts as GBgaffer and a really nice guy if you have any queries throughout your upgrades.

He had the work done at peninsula hence me mailing them first although a distinct lack of response suggests they arent so keen on my custom

ian8542

615 posts

274 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Graham, let me know how you get on.( Noticed your post on the Scorpio site).
I'm fitting one to my Taz racer, the EECV ECU the later Scorpio uses is very tempramental. I would use an aftermarket management system if i was you unless you want to retain most of the Scorpio wiring and associated modules and sensors.

Regards
Ian aka TVR-TASMIN

Graham

16,378 posts

306 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Looks like there's going to be quite a few 24v Tasmins around soon there's already one road car and there'll be 3 racers soon. not decided on the spec for mine yet.

The Granny i bought has got a split water hose and its a total git to get at the plenum has to come off together with the fuel rail etc etc but i'd love to have a blast in it before i strip it.

this is a good place for info

www.granada-and-scorpio-online.com

they have some good forums plus manuals ect on the 24v. and even a trg video showing the engine being stripped and reassembled.

Cheers Graham

(tasminracer on ebay )

grahamw48

Original Poster:

9,944 posts

260 months

Wednesday 4th August 2004
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Appreciate the interest guys.

Now if santa will just send me an engine !

PS. - just been on the phone to a guy about one, but it's done 160,000 miles

Can probably get the whole car for about 400 quid. (1991)

He did tell me though, that both T5 and MT75 boxes fit,
and Topboss are the people who do adaptor plates,etc.
(though you probably knew that).

Graham

16,378 posts

306 months

Thursday 5th August 2004
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IF you want THE place for that engine


its merlin developments in Burton on Trent
01283 511184.

They know everything about that lump and took all the development on from Cosworth.

The Jenvey throttle body kit is their spec...

400 quid is a good price for a running car. i bought mine for 310 with a split water hose and a crashed one with salvagable engine is 200 ish.

it makes sense to get a complete car as you need the loom and ecu that fitted that engine apparently there are differences between pre and post facelift.

You could probably get top boss to do the conversion. i believe they do sierra conversions quite cheep. they also do the all important exhaust system and use either wolf or omex ecu if you want to go that route.

Not used either myself just spoken to them and trawling the web forums


G

p.s

merlin also do a t5 bellusing and built the prosport 3000 race engines ...



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ian8542

615 posts

274 months

Thursday 5th August 2004
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Be carefull with Top Boss. I have had a long dispute over items i bought which were either wrong or extremely bad workmanship.Took nearly 3 months to get my money back.
The problem you will have with the Ultima (BOB) engine is the electrics. Do not try to retain the management system or you will need most of the loom which is usually falling apart in and around the engine.
I have 2 and they are both the same condition.
Best to buy a runner but check for camchain and tensioner noise. Best part of £800 to put right DIY.
The existing 4 speed box and bellhousing on the 280i will bolt straight on, but fit a spigot bearing in the crank first!
As i am fitting the late Cosworth 24V, it has subtle differences to the earlier Granada lump. It will not fit in the chassis with the power pump and alternator in their original positions.
I have removed the power pump/alternator/tensioner and mounting bracket and fitted an alternator from a small Jap car.A grooved pulley was bought from Cambridge Motorsport.

>> Edited by ian8542 on Thursday 5th August 20:04

grahamw48

Original Poster:

9,944 posts

260 months

Friday 6th August 2004
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Thanks again everyone - some really excellent info here. Keep it coming.
I'm hoping to have an engine/car within the next week,
if I can bid successfully.
Off to the dragraces at York tomorrow.

wedg1e took me for a 15 mile blast to the pub in his 390 last night - wow !

I hope he didn't notice my white knuckles and frozen grin

I.K. Brunel would have been jealous of the engineering tooling in his garage !


Certainly confirmed my need for more power !