Extra air valve (EAV )
Extra air valve (EAV )
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wedged up

Original Poster:

353 posts

116 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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Anyone know where I can buy one of these ?

wedged up

Original Poster:

353 posts

116 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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Wedg1e

27,002 posts

287 months

Tuesday 11th October 2016
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How many do you want, I have a few. Some have been bead-blasted so look new(ish).

General Zod

334 posts

153 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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I was just looking for one of those too. Suspect that mine might be faulty. After replacing CTS symptoms are still weird. Get a cough when up to temperature then have to reboot to stop the revs dying under throttle.
Spare another one by any chance? For a fair price of course

wedged up

Original Poster:

353 posts

116 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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I only need the one ! My symptoms are that the revs stay high when the engine is up to temp ' 15-1600rpm's blip the throttle & it drops to about a 1000 ! I'll pm my details to you & how much ?

adam quantrill

11,625 posts

264 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Those last symptoms sound more like a problem with the throttle cable or linkage.

mrzigazaga

18,740 posts

187 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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adam quantrill said:
Those last symptoms sound more like a problem with the throttle cable or linkage.
Definitely....

wedged up

Original Poster:

353 posts

116 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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it's got a new throttle cable ........But that's another story !!

Wedg1e

27,002 posts

287 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Well I wish I had a warehouse full of them, judging by the number of PMs I've had biggrin

Testing the EAV* is dead easy and I'd recommend doing it before you waste time and money because they're usually pretty reliable.

Simplest way: with engine cold, pull air pipes off the EAV. Shine a torch through from one side and observe a solid disc (brass-coloured if you're lucky, hacky black if not biggrin). There should be a crescent-shaped slot in the disc that's wider at one end.
Replace hoses, start engine and go for a spin. Once engine is hot switch hot, pull of hoses and repeat check. The slot should have disappeared if the disc has rotated like it's supposed to. If it fails this the EAV probably is FUBAR but might respond to a good wash in some solvent... petrol, carb cleaner etc.
With the EAV off the car and cold, observe slot as above. Now apply 12V from a battery or beefy power supply to the two terminals (avoid shorts). Watch the disc as over a couple of minutes it should slowly rotate and close off the slot. Remove power and as the unit cools, the slot should reappear.
In theory (I haven't tried it) you could also use a hot-air gun to heat up the base of the EAV which would simulate heat soak from the inlet manifold and close off the disc as above.

Edit *: I meant EAV, not AFM, dammit... banghead



Edited by Wedg1e on Friday 14th October 02:00

mrzigazaga

18,740 posts

187 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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I did that with the AAD on the 280i...Electrically i didn't do shyte as you all know I'm an electrical dimwit...smile
But i de-gundged it with some brake cleaner and tested the mechanical operation by heating with a hot air gun and then putting it in the fridge...Trouble is the EAV on the V8 is a pig to get at let alone remove...I tried getting mine off a while back when i had the plenum off changing the fuel rail..I couldn't budge the bolts so left it as i didn't want to snap anything...I have a brand new unused EAV to fit....biggrin

MethylatedSpirit

1,999 posts

158 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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Taking off the extra air valve requires small hands, small tools, patience, swearing and a bottle of gin.

To get in at the rear bolt, take off all the hoses and fuel lines and use a stubby spanner

I'd like to personally congratulate the person who put the connector directly above the bolt.

Once you have it off, use a Dremel or similar to create a screwdriver slot for the bolt. Makes putting it back on quicker

Edited by MethylatedSpirit on Wednesday 12th October 23:05

mrzigazaga

18,740 posts

187 months

Wednesday 12th October 2016
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MethylatedSpirit said:
I'd like to personally congratulate the person who put the connector directly above the bolt.
Me too..yes

Wedg1e

27,002 posts

287 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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MethylatedSpirit said:
Taking off the extra air valve requires small hands, small tools, patience, swearing and a bottle of gin.

I'd like to personally congratulate the person who put the connector directly above the bolt.
If you unplug the connector you should be able to get straight down onto the bolt. I've a feeling I might have used a 1/4" drive socket set with a long wobble bar but it has been a while.


Wedg1e

27,002 posts

287 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Okley-dokley, here's a few pics of what I'm on about...

EAV hanging off a 12V power supply, as you see it's taking 400-odd milliamps:



...and the disc with slot (this is about as open as it gets):



After a couple of minutes it's started to move and close the slot...



Five minutes in...



...and eventually it's fully closed:



Here's another one:



...and some other spares...

















Jag V12 fuel rail uses the same injectors as the 3.5L RV8:



...and this isn't for sale:



(original NCK-ported inlet manifold from the 390SE, the clue is in the inlet port sizes! I must get round to refitting it one day).

mrzigazaga

18,740 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Bloody hell Ian no wonder we can't find anything...hehe

wedged up

Original Poster:

353 posts

116 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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You may as well let go of that brand new one you've got ey Mark ???

wedged up

Original Poster:

353 posts

116 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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Unless wedg1e I can I can purchase the one in the picky that's working ??

mrzigazaga

18,740 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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wedged up said:
You may as well let go of that brand new one you've got ey Mark ???
scratchchin........type...phone...banghead....phone.....type...tumbleweed...ears...eek...phone..argue...Probably not mate...hehe

wedged up

Original Poster:

353 posts

116 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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b.....b...b....but my car doesn't work cry

mrzigazaga

18,740 posts

187 months

Thursday 13th October 2016
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wedged up said:
b.....b...b....but my car doesn't work cry

Been there...Done it..Have the T-Shirt....

Although i have an empty box so i could pretend to send you it...Then when you open the box there's nothing but an invite to one of my events...smile