350i oil pressure. Help!
350i oil pressure. Help!
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alex290568

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271 posts

243 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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hi folks,
was at wedge fest last weekend for the 1st time and had a great time. (TAZ 3801, white). Took the car to the garage today to have the anti roll bar drop links which I won in the raffle fitted and the mechanic said the car was in overall great condition. However he said the oil pressure was sadly low and that the bottom end had a "grumble". Offered to remove the engine and rebuild bottom end, new timing chain etc for £750. The car runs at 25psi @ 2000rpm when warm and was driven back from London (250 miles) when I bought it 4 weeks ago. Then 300 mile round trip to Ettington without missing a beat. Not being mechanically minded I would gratefully receive any comments. Thanks in advance

tallbloke

10,376 posts

312 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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The pressure is a little low I'd say, although RV8's are fairly tolerant. Use a sae20/50 oil, they don't like pi55y thin stuff, especially in hot weather. Price seems high for a reshelling job, as this can be done in situ with care.

alex290568

Original Poster:

271 posts

243 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Thanks for that. would it be advisable to carry out this work during the winter season (possibly look for a more realistic price) if I want to have a trouble free engine next summer or carry on regardless! Alex

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

271 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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a) Did the mechanic use the build-in guage or attach an accurate one? If the former it could well be the sender being inaccurate, 25% tolerance I'd say.

b) It's hot weather right now. Even my 13000 mile 400SX runs at 25PSI when it's hot at 2000rpm.

c) Change the oil and oil filter first. You could have old, thin oil in there. Put 20W50 in.

d) Does the mechanic know RV8's and what a bottom-end rumble sounds like?

e) If the oil pressure is low another way of getting it back can be to take off the oil pump cover and have it skimmed, or replace it, because it can get worn and let oil past the pump gears.

l33

3,469 posts

253 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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A good 20w50 oil makes a load of difference (I had the same problem).
The other comment that was made to me on several occaisions is that with the V8's, flow is more important than high pressure.

tallbloke

10,376 posts

312 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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One thing at a time. Treat it to some good 20/50 and see if it sounds smoother and the guage reads a better pressure. If the pressure is still low, try a known accurate guage. If it's still low, follow Adam's advice and get the front plate skimmed to see if that improves it. If the botom end rumble turns into a knocking, don't panic, reshelling a RV8 is not too difficult and my friend Mr Scott is a master at the job.

alex290568

Original Poster:

271 posts

243 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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OK. I'll start at the cheap end and get the oil and filter changed. Watch this space. May be back looking for further help in the near future. Thanks to all for the starter for 10!

dickymint

29,078 posts

287 months

Wednesday 19th July 2006
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Now that is a good thread and could save this guy loads of dosh - I love this forum

ferlin

357 posts

268 months

Thursday 20th July 2006
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Checked mine out today... 350i, 1985, 14000 miles and never thrashed!
Engine hot and upto normal 90C+ temperature with fans cutting in and out.
1500 RPM 2 BAR (29psi)
2000 RPM 2.2 BAR (32psi)
So your pressure is lower but probably not anything to worry about really.
Changing the oil and filter is good advice though

wedg1e

27,035 posts

294 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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ferlin said:
Checked mine out today... 350i, 1985, 14000 miles and never thrashed!
Engine hot and upto normal 90C+ temperature with fans cutting in and out.
1500 RPM 2 BAR (29psi)
2000 RPM 2.2 BAR (32psi)
So your pressure is lower but probably not anything to worry about really.
Changing the oil and filter is good advice though


14000 MILES!! F@ck me it's brand new!

ferlin

357 posts

268 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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[quote=wedg1e

14000 MILES!! F@ck me it's brand new![/quote]

Do you think it would be ok to go over 4500 RPM now that its run in then? lol
Incidently wheres the red line?

tallbloke

10,376 posts

312 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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ferlin said:
[quote=wedg1e

14000 MILES!! F@ck me it's brand new!


Do you think it would be ok to go over 4500 RPM now that its run in then? lol
Incidently wheres the red line?[/quote]
Depends. For a bog stock SD1 motor you're talking 5750rpm.

350zwelgje

1,820 posts

290 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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One thing not mentioned: the oil pressure relief spring can start to show it's age, replace with new standard one (low cost part). Best to do this while changing the oil. And after changing oil, and especially the relief spring: get the oil pump primed first (I feel another thread coming on....). If you don't know what priming of the RV8 pump means, you need to be confident with it to understand it and do it yourself or have it done by somebody that knows.

Rob

350matt

3,896 posts

308 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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Another realtively cheap way to get the oil pressure up is to swap the hoses for the remote filter to the next size up ( 5/8 as opposed to 1/2" this gained about 7psi on mine

and definitly use a 15w50 or 20w50 oil

Matt

JR

14,332 posts

287 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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350matt said:
Another realtively cheap way to get the oil pressure up is to swap the hoses for the remote filter to the next size up ( 5/8 as opposed to 1/2" this gained about 7psi on mine.

A good tip. Also remember that the handbokk says 2 bar @2,000rpm so your car is only reading 10% low anyway - hot day, old oil, guage inaccuracies?

trickie dickie

2,399 posts

263 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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Hi Alex
Richard (Dark Brown Wedge)from WYTVRCC here.
I'm sure I read that 28psi @ 2000rpm was the norm.
I use a mechanic in Leeds who is the
ex World Champion F1 Stock Car racer using RV8s
and he only ever uses Valvoline 20W/50.
Let me know if you're going to the BBQ tomorrow
and I will bring my 5 litre can with me,
if your desparate, and I will get another next week.
Also worth getting a 2nd opinion on the bottom end from Andy
before forking out with a load of money.
Cheers Rich

alex290568

Original Poster:

271 posts

243 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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Thanks Richard. Won't be at BBQ but would appreciate details of the guy who will give me a 2nd opinion and maybe another price

trickie dickie

2,399 posts

263 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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alex290568 said:
Thanks Richard. Won't be at BBQ but would appreciate details of the guy who will give me a 2nd opinion and maybe another price

Alex

YHM

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

271 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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350zwelgje said:
get the oil pump primed first (I feel another thread coming on....).

Rob


You can always use the "Adam Quantrill" method - you squirt it into the hole at the top. It also saves on Vaseline.

(Ooohh err, fnarr, fnarr.....)

JR

14,332 posts

287 months

Friday 21st July 2006
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trickie dickie said:
I'm sure I read that 28psi @ 2000rpm was the norm.

Also known as 2 bar.