Exhaust manifolds
Exhaust manifolds
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leorest

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2,346 posts

268 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Am I right in thinking that the left hand tubular manifold on a series 2 350i can be removed with the engine in situ? It's MOT time and I've got some hammering to do!
I'm guessing you undo the manifold-head bolts the exhaust clamp and it drops out the bottom. Obviously there is about five hours of fiddling, aligning cursing etc. and you might need to raise the engine off the LH mount a tad to ease progress.
Have I got it about right? Is there anything else I should know?
Thanks
Leo

l33

3,469 posts

253 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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I've heard it can be removed but it is not an easy job due to the lack of room.
If you are determined and you persevere enough, you should just be able to do it.
The very best of luck - you'll need it.
L33

leorest

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2,346 posts

268 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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I've been talking to a local custom exhaust company about making a new set of manifolds but this is for the future as I haven't got the garage to do the engine out work in yet! I'm having to make do and mend for now. Anyway this guy was talking about making it in sections so it could be taken apart which would mean easier removal and possibly even removal without taking the engine out. He specialises in stainless steel but recommended mild steel which could be stove enameled or $$$$ ceramic coated $$$$ for longevity if required. Obviously this could be a bit of a pipe dream as it's going to cost big bucks!

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

271 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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You need to get the car up quite high - about 18 inches - as this side is longer and needs more clearance underneath to drop it out. ALso if it's tight to get out (or in) you can loosen the engine mount on that side and jack up under the sump with a suitable wooden block to spread the load.

Good luck!

leorest

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2,346 posts

268 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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adam quantrill said:
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Thanks. Sounds like it's worth attempting

Ye Olde Wecg

76 posts

239 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Will the right hand manifold come out with engine in as well? I'm about to do battle with mine!

pwd95

8,457 posts

267 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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I had stainless manifolds fitted to my old 350i. Local garage did it for me. He had a good old winge when I picked it up hehe Lucky I know him.

leorest

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2,346 posts

268 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Ye Olde Wecg said:
Will the right hand manifold come out with engine in as well? I'm about to do battle with mine!
It looks MUCH tighter. I haven't tried it but it looks impossible to me! and I'm normally quite optimistic about such challenges Hence why I'm giving it a go with the LHS.

number 7

4,113 posts

291 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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In my experience the n/s will come out easily, without having to move the engine around. The o/s is more difficult, and will probably require the engine/gearbox to be jacked up a couple of inches (may not be necessary to slacken the mountings) to wriggle the pipe clear.

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honourablepickle

457 posts

263 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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lhs come out with no problems in about 20 mins
rhs needs steering link removed if i remember right, takes about 2 hrs to get off
if the exhaust bolts strip in the head it's a pain in the bum as there is very little room to get a helicoil/timesert kit in
general tip loosen the exhaust veerywhere before trying to refit the manifolds - it is also lots simpler if you can get a mate to help you
have fun

leorest

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268 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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ed_crouch

1,169 posts

271 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Having just done both sides, I cna comment here (based on an 88 390SE).

Both manifolds will come out without moving the engine or box.

To remove the drivers side, you are best of whipping the starter motor out, as it gets in the way. They are a wriggle, but they both come out. Do lift the front off the ground as far as you dare: gives more room under the car.

Ed.

boosted Ls1

21,200 posts

289 months

Thursday 12th October 2006
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Speak to the Snap On man. If you're nice he will get you an 'S' shaped, really thin spanner. Just what the tiff needs

Boosted.

leorest

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2,346 posts

268 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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I have been known to heat up/bend and or grind to customise tools for the application.

honourablepickle

457 posts

263 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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i found a spanner to loosen and 1/4 drive socket to remove the best - can't remember which shape spanner but like most people here i have a good collection of twisted ,welded and milled down ones

mightymouse

1,438 posts

257 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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Before I get into stripping out the exhaust system (have a crack or rather a long hole in RH manifold at box flange joint)yikes - can someone advise on the internal diameter of the manifold please.
Idea is to sleeve it.

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leorest

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2,346 posts

268 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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mightymouse said:
Before I get into stripping out the exhaust system (have a crack or rather a long hole in RH manifold at box flange joint)yikes - can someone advise on the internal diameter of the manifold please.
Idea is to sleeve it.

Many thanks thumbup
I'm getting mine sleeved on the outside to maintain the CSA. The tube changes to oval which complicates things!

Ye Olde Wecg

76 posts

239 months

Friday 13th October 2006
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Got a small crack in my RH one as well. Hope it can be welded as I'm going to have to buy the rest of the exhaust system, but if it needs new manifolds as well, that's nearly a third of what the whole car is worth with a new MOT!!

Who has had experience of welding similar cracks up? If it is done well will it last long enough for my skinned knuckles to heal before I have to take it off again?

Place your bets.....now!!

leorest

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2,346 posts

268 months

Saturday 14th October 2006
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Ye Olde Wecg said:
...Who has had experience of welding similar cracks up?...
I'll let you know after today!

Ye Olde Wecg

76 posts

239 months

Saturday 14th October 2006
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leorest said:
Ye Olde Wecg said:
...Who has had experience of welding similar cracks up?...
I'll let you know after today!


Best of luck!!