More gear selection problems but only when HOT
More gear selection problems but only when HOT
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.Woody

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

257 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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Hi,
Been out hooning over Wales this weekend, and floored it on the Evo Triangle only to find after one "lap" my gear selction had become VERY awkward, but there was no sloppiness like last time Once I got it in gear and away, took it easy for as few miles and then it was fine.....later on 2 days later I got stuck in heavy traffic for 2 miles and the same happened again, but again cured itself when traffic was a in full flow, at the time also the clutch also seemed non existant and only seemed to work very close to the end, but as I said it was ok once moving again.

Is this "just" a fluid relacement job? Or more work needed, the gear selector bush seat, clip and ball were renewed a month ago so these arent the problem. If its just the fluid which one was it?

Cheers
Woody

wee man

746 posts

267 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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.Woody said:
Hi,
Been out hooning over Wales this weekend, and floored it on the Evo Triangle
What you doing in my yard?

Wee man.

rev-erend

21,622 posts

314 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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wee man said:
.Woody said:
Hi,
Been out hooning over Wales this weekend, and floored it on the Evo Triangle
What you doing in my yard?

Wee man.
Woody - you should have asked permissions first ..biggrin

rev-erend

21,622 posts

314 months

Tuesday 28th August 2007
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Seriously - bleed it .. and check for leakage behind the rubber seals.

If it happens again .. new clutch.

Edited by rev-erend on Tuesday 28th August 22:23

.Woody

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Cheers Alan, Bleed what? The gearbox oil or the clutch fluid? and what with? never done any before frown


Sorry for not asking Wee Man!

BadRedWedge

3,450 posts

258 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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.Woody said:
Cheers Alan, Bleed what? The gearbox oil or the clutch fluid? and what with? never done any before frown


Sorry for not asking Wee Man!
Paul the first thing to do is to bleed / renew the clutch fluid replace it with dot 5.1 which has a higher boiling point, just keep pumping 5.1 through it untill you think the old fluid has gone, you can do this with the wife pressing the peddle and you under the car with a spanner or with an easybleed from halfords about £17. Then have a look see just how close to the exhaust the pipe is running, it sounds like you are boiling the fluid which allows bubbles to form and so little, or no clutch. This would happen when you are giving it some beans or when sat in traffic for a while.
If you get stuck email me and I will send you a more details on how to bleed the system

Good Luck

smokin




.Woody

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Thanks Darren,
4 Axle stands and a good jack is needed as well then!confused

rev-erend

21,622 posts

314 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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1 axle stand should be enough.. you only really need to jack the front drivers side.. open the door and window first .. as this is easier before you start jacking.

Remove the front wheel - for easier access.

If the pipe looks to run close to the exhaust - move it.

It should bend easily.

If you suspect heat to be a problem - then wrap stuff in kitchen foil (for now) .. to see if it solves the issue.

.Woody

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Thanks Alan,
If I'm going that far I may change the fluid I think.

So has this problem nothing to do with the gearbox oil type?

adam quantrill

11,679 posts

272 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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The g/b oil could be a factor too - if it's too thin and is getting hot. I use Castrol SMX-S in mine, after the blast back home from Ettington it was still behaving itself reasonably well, so I can recommend it.

.Woody

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Thanks Adam smile

SEvans

1,191 posts

297 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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If the 'feel' of the clutch is altering this won't be down to the G/B oil so I'd do the clutch first. Clutch/brake fluid absorbs moisture over time and then when it gets hot the moisture turns to gas. This could be your problem if the fluid hasn't been changed for a while. As Rev says put DOT5.1 in, cover the pipes and see how you go on. Cheers Steve

.Woody

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Cheers Steve, will givce it a go smile Have someone to help me at the weekend with everything who knows a bit more than me....thats not hard is it hehe

TVRleigh

6,553 posts

243 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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If you want to do it yourself, then you can use the auto bleeders you get you put onto a tire, at 20psi.

I find they give a better feel after than the manual approch, well on breaks anyway.

They are only £15 tops. and well worth the money.

BadRedWedge

3,450 posts

258 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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TVRleigh said:
If you want to do it yourself, then you can use the auto bleeders you get you put onto a tire, at 20psi.

I find they give a better feel after than the manual approch, well on breaks anyway.

They are only £15 tops. and well worth the money.
That will be an easybleed then .. like my post said rolleyes


smokin

TVRleigh

6,553 posts

243 months

Wednesday 29th August 2007
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Yes what you said.

Was just pointing out for the £17 it's well worth it. unless you think your wife could do with the exersize wink

.Woody

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

257 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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Does anyone know where I can get wheel wedges in the UK to get the casr a bit higher before I jack it up? A wedge for a wedge!?

Do normal axle stands and trolley jacks fit on the jacking points of a wedge? Just asking before I order!

TVRleigh

6,553 posts

243 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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Just get some 1' by 1' 1-2" pieces of wood and drive onto them, with a wedge your car could slip off.
This should give enough clearance to get the jack under.

If not lifting the car by the arches, and letting it down slowly, and the car will sit a little higher for a while.

.Woody

Original Poster:

1,790 posts

257 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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Good idea! Thanks Leigh

BadRedWedge

3,450 posts

258 months

Friday 31st August 2007
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Jack it under the very large front crossmember the one between the front wheels, put the trolly jack in the middle and raise the whole front of the car, when its up, put your axle stands at either end of this crossmember. Solid and safe.

Good Luck


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