odometer over-reading
odometer over-reading
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cdt

Original Poster:

537 posts

312 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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I've long thought that my odometer isn't accurate, I'm sure what used to be just under a 40 mile journey in my last car is over 40 in the wedge.

With my new GPS, I've confirmed the the odometer shows 107 miles for every 100 miles the car travels.

I'm guessing this is as I have a slightly different circumferance of the wheels, as I have 16" wheels rather than the standard 15" (or as my dad says, due to too much wheelspin). Is there anything I can do to get it adjusted?

.Woody

1,790 posts

257 months

Thursday 13th September 2007
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When I'm doing 80 my satnav tells me I'm doing 70! its miles out! Get it!? hehe

eesbad

1,330 posts

232 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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When I am following people in a 30mph limit and we come across a speed camera, they all slow down to 35 according to my speedo... smile

L33

3,469 posts

254 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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.Woody said:
When I'm doing 80 my satnav tells me I'm doing 70! its miles out! Get it!? hehe
Me too!

cdt

Original Poster:

537 posts

312 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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I'm meaning the distance driven rather than the speedo, that's always been out on every car I've had.

eesbad

1,330 posts

232 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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cdt said:
I'm meaning the distance driven rather than the speedo, that's always been out on every car I've had.
The mileometer is driven by the speedometer. So if the speedo is out (and they all are, whatever the car, if only by a small percentage), then the mileage will be out too...

dickymint

29,093 posts

288 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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I used to work in calibration.............................Tipex? hehe

Trickie Dickie

2,399 posts

264 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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All my different cars have over read on the speedo compared to the Sat Nav

BUT as someone said to me
"if your speedo was under reading and you kept getting speeding tickets
then you would soon be sueing the motor manufacturers"

It just means you can go faster than what your speedo says !!!!!
(but don't blame me if you get scameraed)

Rich

driverrob

4,847 posts

233 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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It's not the size of the wheels that's important; it's the width and type of tyres. I have the same problem. We both have tyres with an overall rolling diameter slightly smaller than the factory calibrated value.
I have 235x45x17 tyres. 235x50x17 would be too large. 245x45x17 would be closer.

gsx600

2,740 posts

278 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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My last new Mondeo was worse for this, at 30 mph only 2 mph out, but at an indicated 120 (on a private track smile) I was only doing 105 on the GPS

I know how I got time to look at both speedo and gps whilst going round the track at such attrocious speeds is beyond comprehension smile

Speed kills they say, but it was answering the phone and sending a fax at the same time that got me yikes

TVRleigh(BBWR)

6,553 posts

243 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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If you have non standard wheels then the rolling diameter is going to change and that will put the speedo out. you would have to fit lower profile tires to reduce the rolling diameter or change to a digital dash. but as said all speedo miss read. when a car leaves the factory it can over read by 10% IIRC but not under read.

The only car that I have had that reads within 1% of the GPS is the Wedge. even at 90 MPH as tested on a track wink car was 90 GPS was 89.

Will have a Digital dash in the BBWRC run off GPS and acceleration meters.

.Woody

1,790 posts

257 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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On my Maser it read 162 and the GPS read 158 thumbup

driverrob

4,847 posts

233 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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[quote=TVRleigh(BBWR)] you would have to fit lower profile tires to reduce the rolling diameter.
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Surely lower profile tyres and a reduced rolling diameter would mean the transmission has to do more turns to cover a set distance so the calibration of the speedometer, based on factory rolling diameter value, would indicate an even higher speed than real speed?

ed_crouch

1,169 posts

272 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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Mines spot on according to GPS. like exactly on!


driverrob

4,847 posts

233 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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My TomTom 501 seems to do everything except display my speed. I keep reading of others that do. Is there a setting I've missed somewhere?

ed_crouch

1,169 posts

272 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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Got a Garmin Streetpilot 550, and it has a dashboard display that gives journey times and speeds etc.

Wicked bit of kit. Same unit as used in the Avis where2? rental system in the states.

Ed.

HarveyB

408 posts

242 months

Friday 14th September 2007
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driverrob said:
My TomTom 501 seems to do everything except display my speed. I keep reading of others that do. Is there a setting I've missed somewhere?
On the 710 you can get it to show on the display via:

menu/change preferences/status bar preferences/ then select "speed."

(To get the staus bar preferences option to show for the first time:

menu/change preferences/show ALL menu options)

Not sure if it's the same on yours

Incidentally my V8S speedo, according to the TomTom, is the most accurate of any of the other "normal" cars I've had. It does mean that there's not much margin for error though.

driverrob

4,847 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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Thanks Harvey. It was buried under Status Bar Preferences. (It's a 510, by the way, not a 501).
I'll try it out in the car later.

driverrob

4,847 posts

233 months

Saturday 15th September 2007
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I tried it out this afternoon. Weird. It consistently read 3-4 mph lower than my car's speedo at speeds from 30 - 70 mph.
I expected any error/difference to be proportional to speed.

ed_crouch

1,169 posts

272 months

Sunday 16th September 2007
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Speedo is calibrated by 2 factors: gain and offset.

If the ofset is wrong (i.e. the needle is on the piss on the shaft), the misread'll be constant.

If the gain is out, the mis-read will be propertional to amplitude (speed).

Either way, the easy thing to do is understand what the error is and drive accordingly when in the evil stare of LTI20/20 / Truvelo / Gatso / SPECS.

Ed.