Strange clutch problem 2.2 diesel ST
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Hi,
A bit of a wierd one here. Well wierd and new to me. 2.2 diesel ST Mondeo
Driving to a customer this morning aprox 100 miles away. Almost there, approaching a junction, foot on clutch but won't go out of gear.
Force it out of gear, foot on clucth but will not go into any gear. Its as if the clutch is not operating at all. Turn car off and on again all is well car running ike a dream.
Park up for about 5 hours, try to drive out of car park won't go in gear. Turn engine off with foot on clutch goes in gear no problem. Turn engine on with foot on clutch car stalls imediatly as if as soon as power to engine the clutch closes by itself.
After a few minutes of this car goes in gear and I drive home car running and changing gear like a dream.
Ive never heard of an intermitant clutch issue before. Something to do with the hydraulics perhaps? slave cylinder.
Probably nothing related but its booked in to have the auxilary belt/pulley/damper done tomorrow as this is really making a racket now. Are the hydraulics for clutch driven off this? just wondering if its related.
Spoke to ford mech on phone and they said new clutch. Obviously its hard for them to diagnose on the phone but I'm sure the clutch itself is ok at only 72k miles and the clutch works perfect when its working biting point is still very low down.
Thanks in advance.
A bit of a wierd one here. Well wierd and new to me. 2.2 diesel ST Mondeo
Driving to a customer this morning aprox 100 miles away. Almost there, approaching a junction, foot on clutch but won't go out of gear.
Force it out of gear, foot on clucth but will not go into any gear. Its as if the clutch is not operating at all. Turn car off and on again all is well car running ike a dream.
Park up for about 5 hours, try to drive out of car park won't go in gear. Turn engine off with foot on clutch goes in gear no problem. Turn engine on with foot on clutch car stalls imediatly as if as soon as power to engine the clutch closes by itself.
After a few minutes of this car goes in gear and I drive home car running and changing gear like a dream.
Ive never heard of an intermitant clutch issue before. Something to do with the hydraulics perhaps? slave cylinder.
Probably nothing related but its booked in to have the auxilary belt/pulley/damper done tomorrow as this is really making a racket now. Are the hydraulics for clutch driven off this? just wondering if its related.
Spoke to ford mech on phone and they said new clutch. Obviously its hard for them to diagnose on the phone but I'm sure the clutch itself is ok at only 72k miles and the clutch works perfect when its working biting point is still very low down.
Thanks in advance.
£1050 for new clutch and flywheel from a local garage. They say that they always have to change the flywheel at the same time as they are duel mass.
Sounds like exageration to me. On a car with 70k miles on it? drove it home ok. I just cant get my head around spending that sort of cash on a car that drives pefectly.
Anybody want a mondeo ? really nice car just needs a new clutch
Sounds like exageration to me. On a car with 70k miles on it? drove it home ok. I just cant get my head around spending that sort of cash on a car that drives pefectly.
Anybody want a mondeo ? really nice car just needs a new clutch
Well Ford phoned me today.
while doing the clutch they checked the flywheel. They say there is a bit of play but within limits. Said I could have it done to save money on doing it later as its a simple job now the gear box is out. I declined as the mech didnt think it needed doing.
Having the auxilary belt,damper and pulley done at the same time.
Oh and the clutch fault was slave cylinder leaking. Where is the slave cylinder located?
while doing the clutch they checked the flywheel. They say there is a bit of play but within limits. Said I could have it done to save money on doing it later as its a simple job now the gear box is out. I declined as the mech didnt think it needed doing.
Having the auxilary belt,damper and pulley done at the same time.
Oh and the clutch fault was slave cylinder leaking. Where is the slave cylinder located?
Edited by Pesty on Friday 6th February 10:49
the slave cylinder is located inside the gear box, with the hydrolic feed pipe coming out of a hole at the top, they are concentric slave cylinders so the release bearing is attached to them aswell, garages always say to change a dual mass flywheel because the flywheel is supposed to have play and no mechanic wants to take the risk of saying its fine then put everything back together and then it not be. its more of cover there own ass, so if it is shot they say well we told you, now you have got to pay a second lot of labour,
garry
garry
Yeah I think thats why they do it too.
Although to their credit(ford) he said he didnt think it needed doing just gave me the option and said what could happen if it was badly worn.
It was the other garage(none ford) that said they change them on every ford they change the clutch on. without even inspecting it
Fair play to Ford on this occasion they took my car MOT'd it changed the clutch and pulleys etc etc in a morning. The service center at Doncaster has improved a great deal since the last ford I had 14 or so years ago.
Although to their credit(ford) he said he didnt think it needed doing just gave me the option and said what could happen if it was badly worn.
It was the other garage(none ford) that said they change them on every ford they change the clutch on. without even inspecting it
Fair play to Ford on this occasion they took my car MOT'd it changed the clutch and pulleys etc etc in a morning. The service center at Doncaster has improved a great deal since the last ford I had 14 or so years ago.
dual mass flywheel is a problem area on diesel Mondeo's.
In my opinion, diesel cars of any kind are not worth the cost / aggro over a similar petrol car. There's more to go wrong with a diesel car, and the high cost of parts as well. Different if the car is covered by warranty or a maintenance contract of course.
People need to get out of their smelly diesel's and drive a really good petrol car again. They might just realize what fun & refinement they are missing.
Dazza
In my opinion, diesel cars of any kind are not worth the cost / aggro over a similar petrol car. There's more to go wrong with a diesel car, and the high cost of parts as well. Different if the car is covered by warranty or a maintenance contract of course.
People need to get out of their smelly diesel's and drive a really good petrol car again. They might just realize what fun & refinement they are missing.
Dazza
Have to say i was planning on getting an ST diesel as a second car but the flywheel/clutch/egr/injector problems put me right off. I'd love a second ST220 but i don't think i could stomach £800 a year in car tax alone. b
ds. Although i suppose it's only another £200 on top of what i pay now............
ds. Although i suppose it's only another £200 on top of what i pay now............Well it is a pity but the clutch at £550 is the only money I have had to spend on repairs. The flywhell didnt need doing as said above.
The only other work I had done at £350 was the aux belt/damper and pulley. If I'd been switched on I could have had that done under warrenty.
So over all been very reliable apart from the clutch cylinder being made from cheese.
The only other work I had done at £350 was the aux belt/damper and pulley. If I'd been switched on I could have had that done under warrenty.
So over all been very reliable apart from the clutch cylinder being made from cheese.
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