Speed 12 Questions
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RMan40

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4 posts

278 months

Thursday 22nd May 2003
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Could someone tell me the difference between the original Speed 12 (GT1) and the Cerbera Speed 12. I love the car and was just curious after reading another discussion about the car on another site. Exactly how many were built? If someone could provide a link or maybe send me a zip of some pictures I'd truly appreciate it. r_man_40@hotmail.com

RMan40

Original Poster:

4 posts

278 months

Sunday 25th May 2003
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Thanks for the help.

FunkyNige

9,783 posts

302 months

Sunday 25th May 2003
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Try searching these forums for 'speed 12'. there are quite a few threads related to it.

RMan40

Original Poster:

4 posts

278 months

Saturday 31st May 2003
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Thanks Funky, but I have already tried that and didn't find much information on the difference of the two. Oh, and sorry to everyone since I came off as an impatient little prick.

2 sheds

2,529 posts

311 months

Saturday 31st May 2003
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Better late than never ?
The original Speed 12 was on a Cerbera Chassis with a very different body , they then cut it in half and widened it by about 6 inches, not sure if they made 2 certainly no more, racing regs (doing away with GT1) killed it
The Cerbera speed 12 was based more on the regular cerbera, was going to be a V10 originally, don't know how many built only a few though.
It was sad that the original was axed.
Tim

forrestgump

62 posts

278 months

Sunday 1st June 2003
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Another (silly?) question. I have been daydreaming about this for a long long time: Do you think it is possible to fit a Speed 12 engine in a XJ220?
(Sorry to hijack the thread!)

BCA

8,651 posts

284 months

Sunday 1st June 2003
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Perhaps I have said too much

Edited to get rid of what I said so Jaguar dont come and hunt me down.

>> Edited by BCA on Sunday 1st June 01:37

top fuel

2,590 posts

280 months

Sunday 1st June 2003
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Speed 12:







Can anybody else see where the Tuscan R/T400R got it's styling influences from???

Cerbera Speed 12:







I hope this is helpful. Contact me if you want more info on the cars.

RMan40

Original Poster:

4 posts

278 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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Thanks Top Fuel. I believe I remember seeing a picture of a white Speed 12 with blue stripes and a wing on the back. What series did the car race in? British GT. Also, on the pics of the Cebera Speed 12 you posted I noticed the first had an extra headlight. Anybody know why?

tuscan_s

3,173 posts

300 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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As well as an extra light, the headlights are set differently, there is a side air scoop, it has not mirrors and the windscreen wipers are set opposite.

Nice colour though

top fuel

2,590 posts

280 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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I believe that the sketchy coloured (I should probally learn the proper term for that sort of colour) one is one of the very early cars, if not the first.

The white car you mention was run in the British GTs in 2001 (car #12) driven by Ashley Ward and Jonathan Rowland and it ran alongside the "more factory" Black #27 car of Micheal Caine and Bobby Verdon-Roe.

The white car was origenally gonna be Run by Countdown that year but, I think money saw to that!

The first Cebera Speed 12 was the Scania backed works car in 2000 and TVR ran one in Purple last year too.

If you look at the Blue race (i'll get you a pic) car and the Silver road one the headlights are arranged different on those too:- TVR can never make thier minds up about lights can they! (Tuscan R reference)


I'll try to dig out some pics of the Cebera Speed 12 race cars from my shots on the PC, but don't hold your breath, I'm crap with computers!!!




>> Edited by top fuel on Tuesday 3rd June 23:43

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

294 months

Tuesday 3rd June 2003
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Can you imagine building that, it would just take for ever, as you would have to keep stopping and stand back and take in its overwheming presence and Beauty.

A True Beast

BB

wedg1e

27,027 posts

292 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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IMHO the Speed 12 has better lines than some of their more recent attempts. Why they didn't just drop the Sp12 shell onto a Chimaera chassis (or variant) and watch the shekels roll in is a mystery. The Cerb Sp12 looks like some sad short bloke who does steroids and spends too much time in the gym.

Ian

olly

2,174 posts

311 months

Wednesday 4th June 2003
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Couldn't agree with you more Ian. The Speed 12 is a lovely looking car, and the 4.5 Red Rose Cerbera would look after the shell very well . The Cerbera speed 12 is ok, but the original will always be the best (as is so often the case)