CRASH ON A 127
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//P//Good to see your allright
.Same thing happened to me , January 2000, M25 towards A12 , Griffith `95. Heavy showers then sun etc.....
concrete motorway( since rectified with porous blacktop), following articulated lorry , passed him , 200 yards in front of him hit the standing water, car swopped ends rapidly.....dived into nearside lane , down slight embankment demolished aprox 60 foot post and rail fence before halting nose down rump up and slightly in view of passing traffic.
Lots more but as attention span of goldfish am now bored.
Mole Valley repaired it ( 18 K!)so now have `95 Griff with newish chassis etc etc.
Went same route next day in partners 1.4 rt Clio, ( she was in Griff previous day) same speed, same conditions ( it poured!) no repeat.
Conclusion , when it pours take the Focus
.Same thing happened to me , January 2000, M25 towards A12 , Griffith `95. Heavy showers then sun etc.....
concrete motorway( since rectified with porous blacktop), following articulated lorry , passed him , 200 yards in front of him hit the standing water, car swopped ends rapidly.....dived into nearside lane , down slight embankment demolished aprox 60 foot post and rail fence before halting nose down rump up and slightly in view of passing traffic.
Lots more but as attention span of goldfish am now bored.
Mole Valley repaired it ( 18 K!)so now have `95 Griff with newish chassis etc etc.
Went same route next day in partners 1.4 rt Clio, ( she was in Griff previous day) same speed, same conditions ( it poured!) no repeat.
Conclusion , when it pours take the Focus
Hi
Sorry to hijack, but a bit worried now.
Just bought a 4.5 Chim. Wifes daily driver (urban 4 mile commute). MY TOY - Weekend!
I have driven quick RWD cars before, but not heard of them "swaping ends" so easily as this.
We should be ok if taking it easy...yes....anyone (worried and tremulous voice)
Coach
PS Hope the wife does not read this as there may be a lovely yellow chim for sale.... GULP!!!
Sorry to hijack, but a bit worried now.
Just bought a 4.5 Chim. Wifes daily driver (urban 4 mile commute). MY TOY - Weekend!
I have driven quick RWD cars before, but not heard of them "swaping ends" so easily as this.
We should be ok if taking it easy...yes....anyone (worried and tremulous voice)
Coach
PS Hope the wife does not read this as there may be a lovely yellow chim for sale.... GULP!!!
Glad you're OK - nice to hear someone attesting to the safety of a TVR after a major off-road excursion. Hope you're quickly back in another TVR.
Coach: Standing water on any road, especially those with higher traffic speeds, is always a potential accident waiting to happen. I don't think a TVR (driven appropriately for the conditions) is any more prone to loss of control than any other rear wheel drive car.
If the back end steps out then the question has to be what force vector started that movement and then what counter-vector was applied by the driver's reponse. Generally the first reaction of the driver, unless experienced, is to apply an overcorrection that causes a fishtail and at speed this can deteriorate quickly into an irrecoverable situation.
I'm not sure I would be able to apply everything I learnt during skid-pan tuition at Brands Hatch, but it did teach me how counter-intuitive some of the required actions are in controlling a skidding vehicle.
Standing water on roads is a hazard that few pay much attention to (viz: most of the country's motorways in the wet and the distances people drive from the car in front). Tread depth is of course an important determinant of the capacity for the tyre to clear water and maintain contact with the tarmac/concrete rather than surf. So a good set of boots is important.
Coach: Standing water on any road, especially those with higher traffic speeds, is always a potential accident waiting to happen. I don't think a TVR (driven appropriately for the conditions) is any more prone to loss of control than any other rear wheel drive car.
If the back end steps out then the question has to be what force vector started that movement and then what counter-vector was applied by the driver's reponse. Generally the first reaction of the driver, unless experienced, is to apply an overcorrection that causes a fishtail and at speed this can deteriorate quickly into an irrecoverable situation.
I'm not sure I would be able to apply everything I learnt during skid-pan tuition at Brands Hatch, but it did teach me how counter-intuitive some of the required actions are in controlling a skidding vehicle.
Standing water on roads is a hazard that few pay much attention to (viz: most of the country's motorways in the wet and the distances people drive from the car in front). Tread depth is of course an important determinant of the capacity for the tyre to clear water and maintain contact with the tarmac/concrete rather than surf. So a good set of boots is important.
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