CADWELL TRACK DAY POLISHING ARENA
CADWELL TRACK DAY POLISHING ARENA
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heightswitch

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6,322 posts

276 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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It seems to me to be a very sad state of affairs that the TVR car Club have in excess of 6000 members and struggle to get 60 to go to a track day?

The Cadwell track day is the only TVR car club track event left. It has been running for well over 20 years. Its cheap for what a track day normally costs. Instruction by qualified racing drivers is laid on. Its a day to see and experience in a safe environment what your car is all about. It has sessions laid on for the beginner to the track day expert so that all abilities are catered for.

Maybe a polishing arena should be provided so that the 5940 odd members can have somewhere to stand and watch whilst the all too few TVR drivers actually use their cars for the purpose that TVR always intended.

To date with 2 weeks to go Bernie has approx 32 members and non members signed up..

Do the TVR club members that masquerade as car enthusiasts really want to see this event consigned to history....!!

6000 members......32 booked.

stroll on.
N.

pistolar

1,474 posts

294 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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I like polishing xx

Sevenman

762 posts

218 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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heightswitch said:
use their cars for the purpose that TVR always intended.
Is track time what TVR intended? My Tamora doesn't think so. It likes a spirited drive, but objects to going on track.

I would love to attend - One of the main reasons I bought my Tam was to have something a bit more suitable for Trackdays and to allow me to learn car control in something RWD and unaided.

I did a few UK trackdays and a couple of Ring trips in my previous car, a tweaked Saab 9000 Aero, and really enjoyed them. Had the chance to surprise plenty of 'faster' cars, and it took everything I threw at it with very little going wrong.

But as a rolling, understeering FWD barge I could either spend lots of money at it, or buy something light, RWD and with a decent amount of power, so I bought a Tamora.

However, every time I take the Tam towards the limits of its performance it isn't right. I have tried to do 2 days with CAT driver training at Millbrook and both of them have been cut short due to problems. This was especially embarrassing the 2nd time when I had lots of work done to supposedly fix it.

I currently have a car with rear-biased brakes (despite spending £££ on replacing and tweaking bits) and some issues with lean running (despite spending £££ on services and injector cleaning) that led to it being taken home on a recovery truck after a few minutes of high-speed running caused problems.

The car works fine for normal driving. but no trackdays until it is sorted. Amongst a house move, a baby, and needing to build a garage at the new house, getting the TVR fixed quickly is not top of the list. It is much higher up the list than polishing though.

Maybe next year.

heightswitch

Original Poster:

6,322 posts

276 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Sevenman said:
Is track time what TVR intended? My Tamora doesn't think so. It likes a spirited drive, but objects to going on track.

I would love to attend - One of the main reasons I bought my Tam was to have something a bit more suitable for Trackdays and to allow me to learn car control in something RWD and unaided.

I did a few UK trackdays and a couple of Ring trips in my previous car, a tweaked Saab 9000 Aero, and really enjoyed them. Had the chance to surprise plenty of 'faster' cars, and it took everything I threw at it with very little going wrong.

But as a rolling, understeering FWD barge I could either spend lots of money at it, or buy something light, RWD and with a decent amount of power, so I bought a Tamora.

However, every time I take the Tam towards the limits of its performance it isn't right. I have tried to do 2 days with CAT driver training at Millbrook and both of them have been cut short due to problems. This was especially embarrassing the 2nd time when I had lots of work done to supposedly fix it.

I currently have a car with rear-biased brakes (despite spending £££ on replacing and tweaking bits) and some issues with lean running (despite spending £££ on services and injector cleaning) that led to it being taken home on a recovery truck after a few minutes of high-speed running caused problems.

The car works fine for normal driving. but no trackdays until it is sorted. Amongst a house move, a baby, and needing to build a garage at the new house, getting the TVR fixed quickly is not top of the list. It is much higher up the list than polishing though.

Maybe next year.
you may not have the opportunity next year..
The event is for all levels and all TVR's you can use the car and more importantly take some proper instruction which is all laid on.
my historic car runs drums and tidgy little discs up front..The event is for likeminded enthusiasts to have some fun, not necesarily push the car to its absolute limits..

you can have fun and learn about the car in a safe environment.

Would be great to see you there.

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GAjon

4,044 posts

239 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Neil (Heightswith)are you staying over at the circuit?

paul1962

556 posts

240 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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I fail to see the connection between owning a TVR and needing to do a track day.

I cover about 10000 miles a year in mine but have no interest in track days at all.

Laser Sag

2,860 posts

269 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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You should be glad that the other 5940 have happily subsidised your track day for 20 years.
If it was popular there wouldn't be a problem, obviously for the TVRCC membership it is not much of a priority.

As for slagging off your fellow TVR "enthusiasts" why? they have the right to be entusiastic without going on a trackday surely.

anonymous-user

80 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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GAjon said:
Neil (Heightswith)are you staying over at the circuit?
We'll be there in the motor home Jon smile

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 19th May 16:48

EGB

1,774 posts

183 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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[quote=heightswitch]

.The event is for likeminded enthusiasts to have some fun, not necesarily push the car to its absolute limits..

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If you like touring on track!,. We can do it on UK roads. No offence. Glad to support TVRCC and support track days touring or absolute flat out loose it, recover it, insurance busting and repair drive. smile

tuscanturner

387 posts

188 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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I think the TVRCC track day is brilliant and will have no hesitation doing it again, although my exhaust may be too noisy.

its a great opportunity to learn more about how your car goes in relative safety with like minded people.

its not for everyone but its a great day out, I like the format (20 mins every hour) and you can go as fast or slow as you like.

Rib

2,579 posts

215 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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horses for courses I guess, I don't feel you can SAFELY drive these cars like they were intended on most of the roads these days. you reach the speed limit very quickly, pot holes everywhere, horses, diesel, cyclists the list goes on. If my car is ready for curborough on Friday and performs ok I will probably book cadwell. I say probably as its a track that doesn't really entice me to come from what I have seen - plus not a fan of session, have a little hicup in one session that needs a quick fettle with the car and your session is ruined.

if it down for donnington or oulton park however I would be booked up already but thats a personal choice I suppose.

grahamn

1,777 posts

260 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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I understand why some TVR owners do not want to track their cars, and it is their choice. I think Cadwell is one of, if not the best in the country, and suits TVRs very well and I will be there again this year.

Just to put it into some sort of perspective, I have done 2 trackdays with the BMW car club this year and they have another 2 or 3 planned later in the year. All are over subscribed, and full of varying talent. If they can do it, so should we.
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The Big G

1,003 posts

194 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Another one who would love to but can't due to work commitments. My exhaust is also too loud, not sure if track day silencers would get it down far enough. For the last few years when I've seen it in sprint I have always checked the date but have always had to go to work, at least it pays for the car in the first place though! thumbup

Rib

2,579 posts

215 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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grahamn said:
I understand why some TVR owners do not want to track their cars, and it is their choice. I think Cadwell is one of, if not the best in the country, and suits TVRs very well and I will be there again this year.

Just to put it into some sort of perspective, I have done 2 trackdays with the BMW car club this year and they have another 2 or 3 planned later in the year. All are over subscribed, and full of varying talent. If they can do it, so should we.
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done a couple with the BMWCC too, great days, BUT ask Nick and he will even admit over the last couple of years numbers have been down, I think they cancelled one or 2 events due to lack of numbers, things may be back on the up by the looks of it though.

I cant comment on cadwell really as I haven't done it, but on the in car vids Ive seen make the barriers look very close, narrow track and very twisty, great in the dry but not so much fun in the wet. however I might be wrong? and noise is also an issue, mine, amongst many other have had decats/sleeved etc and the worry of being kicked off the track, BMWS generally don't have that problem + open pitlane

I'm not against the TVRCC day, just pointing out reasons why people might not be booking it. TBH I have had fairly poor take up on a cheap, unslicenced day at curborough which isn't as taxing on cars as say a full track day, and at £60 you cant say its the cost! maybe as a few more people do it the word will spread, but I do get the feeling people like them for the show rather than the go lol

anonymous-user

80 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Laser Sag said:
You should be glad that the other 5940 have happily subsidised your track day for 20 years.
If it was popular there wouldn't be a problem, obviously for the TVRCC membership it is not much of a priority.

As for slagging off your fellow TVR "enthusiasts" why? they have the right to be entusiastic without going on a trackday surely.
Not sure the subsidy is accurate or fair, can't fault the last part of your post though... smile

phillpot

17,489 posts

209 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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What's the arrangement for polishing, timed sessions or can you do as much as you like all day?

SteveSPG

2,120 posts

228 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Rib said:
done a couple with the BMWCC too, great days, BUT ask Nick and he will even admit over the last couple of years numbers have been down, I think they cancelled one or 2 events due to lack of numbers, things may be back on the up by the looks of it though.

I cant comment on cadwell really as I haven't done it, but on the in car vids Ive seen make the barriers look very close, narrow track and very twisty, great in the dry but not so much fun in the wet. however I might be wrong? and noise is also an issue, mine, amongst many other have had decats/sleeved etc and the worry of being kicked off the track, BMWS generally don't have that problem + open pitlane

I'm not against the TVRCC day, just pointing out reasons why people might not be booking it. TBH I have had fairly poor take up on a cheap, unslicenced day at curborough which isn't as taxing on cars as say a full track day, and at £60 you cant say its the cost! maybe as a few more people do it the word will spread, but I do get the feeling people like them for the show rather than the go lol
when is this, missed it as i would quite like a short session

clive f

7,259 posts

259 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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I hope this event gets the support it deserves, unfortunately for me with it being earlier in the year this time around I cannot make it due to financial restraints, I have the rally for heroes event at the end of june and need every penny for fuel for the 2600 odd miles in 8 days, so travelling up from the isle of wight, b and b for 2 nights plus fuel means I just cannot run to it this year.

Laser Sag

2,860 posts

269 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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TVRMs said:
Laser Sag said:
You should be glad that the other 5940 have happily subsidised your track day for 20 years.
If it was popular there wouldn't be a problem, obviously for the TVRCC membership it is not much of a priority.

As for slagging off your fellow TVR "enthusiasts" why? they have the right to be entusiastic without going on a trackday surely.
Not sure the subsidy is accurate or fair, can't fault the last part of your post though... smile
My understanding was that TVRCC were doing less track days as they were loosing money on them, therefore the rest of the members were in effect subsidising the attendees.
They are a business at the end of the day and so if something isn't profitable they will not do them

TV8

3,463 posts

201 months

Monday 19th May 2014
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Not sure why the numbers are so low. I have only been on a few track days but open pit lane would be my preference. The instruction is a bonus and probably brilliant but waiting another 40 minutes to try something out doesnt work with my level of patience.