Anyone used anything other than cable ties on chassis?
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They don't positively locate the pipe/tube/cable, so it can migrate from where you place it, they hold the pipe/tube/cable against the chassis tube where it can fret and abrade the chassis tube coating and the pipe/tube/cable itself, as opposed to a proper pipe clip or P clip which gives a stand off.
hidetheelephants said:
They don't positively locate the pipe/tube/cable, so it can migrate from where you place it, they hold the pipe/tube/cable against the chassis tube where it can fret and abrade the chassis tube coating and the pipe/tube/cable itself, as opposed to a proper pipe clip or P clip which gives a stand off.
Right I see...RichB said:
hidetheelephants said:
They don't positively locate the pipe/tube/cable, so it can migrate from where you place it, they hold the pipe/tube/cable against the chassis tube where it can fret and abrade the chassis tube coating and the pipe/tube/cable itself, as opposed to a proper pipe clip or P clip which gives a stand off.
Right I see...They don't rub anything if you fit them properly…On brake lines I use washer hose as an outer sleeve to guard against chafing. hoses etc can be wrapped prior to tie wrapping.
Under exhaust manifolds its always better to use metal ties since poly ones can and often do melt and snap due to heat.
N.
Under exhaust manifolds its always better to use metal ties since poly ones can and often do melt and snap due to heat.
N.
heightswitch said:
They don't rub anything if you fit them properly…On brake lines I use washer hose as an outer sleeve to guard against chafing. hoses etc can be wrapped prior to tie wrapping.
Under exhaust manifolds its always better to use metal ties since poly ones can and often do melt and snap due to heat.
N.
Yeah they work but it's a bodge job, and if you've got everything off surely something a bit more professional is better. Some plastic clamps for the brake pipes and copper fuel pipes would be good I thinkUnder exhaust manifolds its always better to use metal ties since poly ones can and often do melt and snap due to heat.
N.
Twistygit said:
Yeah they work but it's a bodge job, and if you've got everything off surely something a bit more professional is better. Some plastic clamps for the brake pipes and copper fuel pipes would be good I think
Don't think I bodge anything!They are replaceable in seconds, last a long time and infinitely better than drilling a hole into a chassis member to place a self tapper..Rust in my experience always starts around drilled holes..and poorly maintained cars which only get washed and cleaned on the top surfaces.
If you are rebuilding from the ground up then going to the trouble of welding nuts to the chassis is nice…Bit anal perhaps
This one seems ok on Tie wraps on its 46 year old original chassis ??
Edited by heightswitch on Saturday 28th June 13:58
Neil, how close does your manifold come to those ties, problem with mine is the manifolds are an inch away from the top tubes. On my 92 griff which i polybushed, i had a piece of heat reflective that covered the top wishbone bushes and this also covered the ties so no problem. I guess i could use thin lightweight stainless steel hose bands or similar in place of plastic, just where the heat is? it is really just along the main lower rails which got me thinking about using something other than ties, which i agree are fine for the brake lines attached to the the round tubes, but i dont like the ties under the car catching all the crap.
Might get me some of these,....
http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/red-aluminiu...
Might get me some of these,....
http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/red-aluminiu...
my250gt said:
Neil, how close does your manifold come to those ties, problem with mine is the manifolds are an inch away from the top tubes. On my 92 griff which i polybushed, i had a piece of heat reflective that covered the top wishbone bushes and this also covered the ties so no problem. I guess i could use thin lightweight stainless steel hose bands or similar in place of plastic, just where the heat is? it is really just along the main lower rails which got me thinking about using something other than ties, which i agree are fine for the brake lines attached to the the round tubes, but i dont like the ties under the car catching all the crap.
Might get me some of these,....
http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/red-aluminiu...
On the vixen a mile away. On the griff they run very close but I inspect the racer very very frequently. On a road car I would use stainless band ties in the vicinity of the exhausts..Might get me some of these,....
http://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/red-aluminiu...
I hope the welded nut solution were fully welded. In my experience if their is a joint which isn't sealed you will get rust staining coming from the joint…then again the person going to that length will no doubt be cleaning them every weekend
N.
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