New tyre time?

[NRG1976]

Just before I put 2 new tyres onto my car, I just wanted to check in with the folks here first (blame my dealer paranoia).

My tyres have c5-6mm tread but the dealer said there are one small cut in each of front tyres. I’m inclined to take their word for it given the tyres are crucial for safety, but dealer paranoia has kicked in !

Just to double check with the more knowledgeable on here, below are a couple of screenshots…is it time to get some new tyres ?

Thanks for the help

Edited by NRG1976 on Wednesday 30th April 21:43

[ChocolateFrog]

They look a bit tired. How old are they?

[NRG1976]

ChocolateFrog said:

They look a bit tired. How old are they?

Will need to check to make sure, but think the dot was 2022.

[tallpaul26]

I’d run the car down to the local indy tyre fitter and ask their opinion.

[HarryW]

Very hard to tell from that picture but it looks more like the star cut type you get from sharp flint, ergo nothing abnormal to me. Do you have a bigger picture too, be easier to judge as I can only see one zoomed in pic?
Personally given its 2-3 years old with 4-6mm tread I’d ignore, however worth getting second opinion if that makes you feel happy.

[NRG1976]

Thanks, I seem to be having an issue uploading a photo for some unknown reason…hopefully these appear:

[Mr Tidy]

Looking at the photos I'd be changing them. There doesn't seem to be much tread depth on the outer edges either.

[littleredrooster]

Dealer upsell. They try it all the time, and I'd wager that they offer some bargain-basement rubbish for a mid-range price. The Toyota dealer tried it with me, suggesting I replace both front Michelin Cross-Climates with Evergreen summer ditchfinders!

Get a second opinion from a local independent place for honesty and better prices.

[Clad-Hach]

The common used phrase "you only get what you pay for" very much applies to tyres, the best ones cost more money but tend to last longer and give the best grip.

I've been driving on Michelins for years and they have proved to be a very good choice.

[Smint]

Mr Tidy said:

Looking at the photos I'd be changing them. There doesn't seem to be much tread depth on the outer edges either.

So would i, and judging by the cracks starting to appear it wouldn't be two more of the same.

[NRG1976]

Thanks, for info the tires are Michelin Pilot Super Sports. I’ll be sticking with them for the new set if I have to put some on. Going to a tyre place on Saturday so see what they say!

[ARHarh]

If you are unsure take it to your local independent tyre shop for a check. They will be honest with you, and give you an estimate of how long they will last or whether they need replacing.

[Pica-Pica]

Clad-Hach said:

The common used phrase "you only get what you pay for" very much applies to tyres, the best ones cost more money but tend to last longer and give the best grip.

I've been driving on Michelins for years and they have proved to be a very good choice.

You’ve not driven on early Michelins, I assume. Hopeless in the wet!

[Smint]

Pica-Pica said:

You’ve not driven on early Michelins, I assume. Hopeless in the wet!

X and ZX were terrifying in the wet, glad to see the back of them and fitted the then new Goodyear Unisteels.

However XY pattern drive axle fitment truck tyres were even more terrifying if that were possible, multiple oversteers in an artic on wet bends at quite slow speeds is not enjoyable.

Cross plies were better.

Edited by Smint on Thursday 1st May 16:37

[E-bmw]

Both of those splits show the wire of the carcass through them, anyone saying "dealer up-sell" is clearly blind.

Need changing immediately.

ETA.
The top pic shows steel wire at the bottom of the split.

The bottom pic shows rusted steel wire at the bottom of the split.

Edited by E-bmw on Friday 2nd May 08:13

[wyson]

I think I can see cut cords. Would be an immediate MOT failure.

OP, poke around and confirm. If you can see cords are cut, I’d change them out asap.

[Pica-Pica]

Smint said:

Pica-Pica said:

You’ve not driven on early Michelins, I assume. Hopeless in the wet!

X and ZX were terrifying in the wet, glad to see the back of them and fitted the then new Goodyear Unisteels.

However XY pattern drive axle fitment truck tyres were even more terrifying if that were possible, multiple oversteers in an artic on wet bends at quite slow speeds is not enjoyable.

Cross plies were better.

Edited by Smint on Thursday 1st May 16:37

Yes a few early spins put me off Michelin for life. I am a confirmed Goodyear or Continental fan.

[NRG1976]

To close this thread off, I ordered 2 new tyres online from Costco (who were absolutely brilliant in both price and service). Had them fitted and asked the guys working there if the old tyres were knackered as per what the dealer had said. One tyre they said was down to the cord and the other wasn’t, but only just.

Thanks for all the help and advice.

[stevieturbo]

Pica-Pica said:

You’ve not driven on early Michelins, I assume. Hopeless in the wet!

Michelin and other brands have made many different tyres, for many different applications.

First time I splashed out was on Pilot Sport Cups many years ago. And for me, they were genuinely lethal. Still easily lighting the tyres at 150+

Perhaps after several track laps they might do something positive, but for road use and straight line airfields, they were total junk. That put me off for years until a few years ago I tried some PS4's after the many many great tests on Jon's Tyre review channel. And they do feel pretty good on the road.
Haven't done much racing on them though, but they were primarily bought for the road

There are so many good tests Youtube these days, that just show how bad most cheap and budget brands are compared to the big guys. It's a disgrace that so many tyre sellers try and sell junk claiming they are as good as the big names. It should be fraud.