Tyre issue and opinions on fault
Discussion
Hello all
I’m restoring a classic Range Rover, full kit and bolt job. When I took all the bits and the chassis to the sand blasters I also had the wheels sand blasted. This was done outside in a barn on a farm as the chassis was too big for anyone with a booth that does micro type blasting.
I bought 5 brand new tyres with dot code 2024. And took them to my local garage that seems to specialise in repairing vans but has a tyre machine.
Upon fitting, a sidewall has blow and the fitter has suggested that the abrasiveness of the wheel finish has damaged the bead and this is why it has blown. He says he’s never known wheels to not have a ‘lacquered ’ smooth finish before.
I was returned 2 wheels and tyres and was told he’s going to remove the 1 that went on with difficulty and the third that he mounted (not inflated) to check his staff member didn’t make a mistake with the machine. They will then be returned to me to get the rims sorted.
He’s obviously claiming no liability here and nor have I suggested he should because I’m no expert here. I’m mostly just relieved his son (the fitter) is ok after a trip to hospital revealed a couple of broken bones in his hand.
Here’s the quick picture I managed. Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
I’m restoring a classic Range Rover, full kit and bolt job. When I took all the bits and the chassis to the sand blasters I also had the wheels sand blasted. This was done outside in a barn on a farm as the chassis was too big for anyone with a booth that does micro type blasting.
I bought 5 brand new tyres with dot code 2024. And took them to my local garage that seems to specialise in repairing vans but has a tyre machine.
Upon fitting, a sidewall has blow and the fitter has suggested that the abrasiveness of the wheel finish has damaged the bead and this is why it has blown. He says he’s never known wheels to not have a ‘lacquered ’ smooth finish before.
I was returned 2 wheels and tyres and was told he’s going to remove the 1 that went on with difficulty and the third that he mounted (not inflated) to check his staff member didn’t make a mistake with the machine. They will then be returned to me to get the rims sorted.
He’s obviously claiming no liability here and nor have I suggested he should because I’m no expert here. I’m mostly just relieved his son (the fitter) is ok after a trip to hospital revealed a couple of broken bones in his hand.
Here’s the quick picture I managed. Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
Edited by eltax91 on Saturday 10th May 15:01
I'd have thought that the worst a rough finish would give you is a slow leak. It would be quite effective in stopping the rubber moving due to friction. So I think that there's no logic in what he says happened. I think it looks like it's been over inflated or it already had a fault.
First. This is bulls
t.
The multiple bites at pushing the bead past the rim are telling of an inexperienced operator.
Then we have the lack of alignment knowledge as the indicators are not with the valve.
…
Failed setup. Failed mount. Failed position.
Let's place bets on trying to inflate a tyre after failing the first three tests.
As it's probably a heavy-duty tyre (I'm not familiar with the brand), and as it's a heavy-load shop (vans), we of course can presume the operator then inflated it in the cage I'm sure.
Ultimately. Shop boy fail.
But. You'd be better to walk. Get a new tyre. Try a pro.
t.eltax91 said:
Upon fitting, a sidewall has blow and the fitter has suggested that the abrasiveness of the wheel finish has damaged the bead and this is why it has blown. He says he’s never known wheels to not have a ‘lacquered ’ smooth finish before.
That's what slip is for. Of which, there appears to be none.The multiple bites at pushing the bead past the rim are telling of an inexperienced operator.
Then we have the lack of alignment knowledge as the indicators are not with the valve.
…
Failed setup. Failed mount. Failed position.
Let's place bets on trying to inflate a tyre after failing the first three tests.
As it's probably a heavy-duty tyre (I'm not familiar with the brand), and as it's a heavy-load shop (vans), we of course can presume the operator then inflated it in the cage I'm sure.
Ultimately. Shop boy fail.
But. You'd be better to walk. Get a new tyre. Try a pro.
Actually, I'll go even further than that.
They've partially seated the bead into the rim groove. Which I'd wager didn't 'crack' as it slipped into place.
Having got the hump with it, they have slammed auto-inflate while whacking it, hoping it seats. Here, the friction of a mildly rough finish has scuppered them.
Then, the offset inflation has overcome the lip and torn out like running a piece of paper across the edge of a ruler.
Gimp standing near and touching it up has had his own hands slap his face.
They've partially seated the bead into the rim groove. Which I'd wager didn't 'crack' as it slipped into place.
Having got the hump with it, they have slammed auto-inflate while whacking it, hoping it seats. Here, the friction of a mildly rough finish has scuppered them.
Then, the offset inflation has overcome the lip and torn out like running a piece of paper across the edge of a ruler.
Gimp standing near and touching it up has had his own hands slap his face.
I've fitted literally thousands in my mispent youth and watched in disgust as some clowns attempt to fit them dry, which invariably leads to bead and rim damage, some serious leverage was applied there probably by the machine which i suspect was what ripped the bead apart.
Without looking at the wheel from both sides not even sure from which side the tyre should be fitted, and yes seen some clowns try to fit tyres freom the wrong side resulting in wrecked and stretched beads.
Without looking at the wheel from both sides not even sure from which side the tyre should be fitted, and yes seen some clowns try to fit tyres freom the wrong side resulting in wrecked and stretched beads.
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