Ssangyong Tivoli - leaky alloys - where to get steel wheels
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Hi folks,
Asking on behalf of my Mum (late 70s), who has a 2019 Ssangyong Tivoli. Weird car, I know, wouldn't be my choice but there it is and here we are.
Her problem with the car is that the alloy wheels appear to be made out of soft cheese, and leak air like nobody's business. I'd like to get her a set of steel replacements with all season tyres ready fitted. I'd also like to downsize them from 18" to 16" to make the car ride better for her, as it's a bit on the stiff side for an oldie wonk.
But none of the usual online wheel/tyre places (Oponeo/Blackcircles/Mytres) recognise the make/model in their searches for steel wheels (we're not interested in alloys).
Any advice for online suppliers I can go to to order please?
Asking on behalf of my Mum (late 70s), who has a 2019 Ssangyong Tivoli. Weird car, I know, wouldn't be my choice but there it is and here we are.
Her problem with the car is that the alloy wheels appear to be made out of soft cheese, and leak air like nobody's business. I'd like to get her a set of steel replacements with all season tyres ready fitted. I'd also like to downsize them from 18" to 16" to make the car ride better for her, as it's a bit on the stiff side for an oldie wonk.
But none of the usual online wheel/tyre places (Oponeo/Blackcircles/Mytres) recognise the make/model in their searches for steel wheels (we're not interested in alloys).
Any advice for online suppliers I can go to to order please?
Search eBay or whatever for steel wheels for other models of car. Should find something that'll fit no problem.
Here's a list of cars with the same stud diameter and centre bore (so the wheel will physically fit), though not necessarily the same offset. Better to double check any model you pick and get as close as you can.
https://www.wheelfitment.eu/car/Ssang%20Yong/Tivol...
Here's a list of cars with the same stud diameter and centre bore (so the wheel will physically fit), though not necessarily the same offset. Better to double check any model you pick and get as close as you can.
https://www.wheelfitment.eu/car/Ssang%20Yong/Tivol...
You might have to research the current wheel offset/PCD/hub diameter and search manually (or see if they're the same as another brand that's easier to find).
Looking online, it seems the 18" option was:
For example, the BMW Mini, newer BMWs & VAG vehicles use those PCD and centre-bore dimensions.
Looking online, it seems the 18" option was:
- 215/50r18 tyres
- 6.5j x 18 et45.5 wheels
- 205/65r16 tyres
- 6.0j x 16 et43 wheels
For example, the BMW Mini, newer BMWs & VAG vehicles use those PCD and centre-bore dimensions.
Hi Pebbles, many thanks. I don't even know what an offset is or why it matters, so I'm nervous of making any assumptions. I'd prefer to find a company which can advise me of a correct fitting wheel if at all possible. Would also prefer brand new for simplicity's sake, my Mum lives a long way away and I don't want any aggro with potentially duff second hand purchases.
Just playing devils advocate here.
What makes you think it is actually the alloys?
Considerably more likely is the rim of the wheel leaking due to cr@p on the tyre being left & not cleaned off.
If you are right then perhaps best look in the manual/on the door post to see if the size you want was ever fitted to that car as best to stick to a size used by the manufacturer.
What makes you think it is actually the alloys?
Considerably more likely is the rim of the wheel leaking due to cr@p on the tyre being left & not cleaned off.
If you are right then perhaps best look in the manual/on the door post to see if the size you want was ever fitted to that car as best to stick to a size used by the manufacturer.
Has it got a full sized steel spare wheel ? If it has, then just get another 4 of those. Failing that I'd find a decent nearby wheel/tyre supplier and get them to have a look. Steel wheels are still quite popular, so they may have something suitable. If you post up your location, someone may have a recommendation.
E-bmw said:
Just playing devils advocate here.
What makes you think it is actually the alloys?
Considerably more likely is the rim of the wheel leaking due to cr@p on the tyre being left & not cleaned off.
If you are right then perhaps best look in the manual/on the door post to see if the size you want was ever fitted to that car as best to stick to a size used by the manufacturer.
She's been to a trusted independent tyre guy a couple of time and he's tested them and believes it's corrosion on the alloys causing leaks. Supported by one of the hubs having corroded so badly it's been replaced - by the local main dealer charging her over £600, which I'm pretty cross about. The wheels and hubs appear to be very low quality materials, not graded to cope with very wet, often salty roads (this is deepest rural west Wales we're talking about, i.e. a swamp).What makes you think it is actually the alloys?
Considerably more likely is the rim of the wheel leaking due to cr@p on the tyre being left & not cleaned off.
If you are right then perhaps best look in the manual/on the door post to see if the size you want was ever fitted to that car as best to stick to a size used by the manufacturer.
I've said maybe she should go back to the tyre place and ask them if they can source wheels for her - she's so fed up with tyres losing pressure persistently that she's even considering trading the car in, but she's not exactly flush enough for that so I'm trying to help save that from happening.
Skodillac said:
E-bmw said:
Just playing devils advocate here.
What makes you think it is actually the alloys?
Considerably more likely is the rim of the wheel leaking due to cr@p on the tyre being left & not cleaned off.
If you are right then perhaps best look in the manual/on the door post to see if the size you want was ever fitted to that car as best to stick to a size used by the manufacturer.
She's been to a trusted independent tyre guy a couple of time and he's tested them and believes it's corrosion on the alloys causing leaks. Supported by one of the hubs having corroded so badly it's been replaced - by the local main dealer charging her over £600, which I'm pretty cross about. The wheels and hubs appear to be very low quality materials, not graded to cope with very wet, often salty roads (this is deepest rural west Wales we're talking about, i.e. a swamp).What makes you think it is actually the alloys?
Considerably more likely is the rim of the wheel leaking due to cr@p on the tyre being left & not cleaned off.
If you are right then perhaps best look in the manual/on the door post to see if the size you want was ever fitted to that car as best to stick to a size used by the manufacturer.
I've said maybe she should go back to the tyre place and ask them if they can source wheels for her - she's so fed up with tyres losing pressure persistently that she's even considering trading the car in, but she's not exactly flush enough for that so I'm trying to help save that from happening.
It could just be corrosion on the lip causing poor sealing, in which case a quick refurb will sort the (non) issue out.
E-bmw said:
Skodillac said:
E-bmw said:
Just playing devils advocate here.
What makes you think it is actually the alloys?
Considerably more likely is the rim of the wheel leaking due to cr@p on the tyre being left & not cleaned off.
If you are right then perhaps best look in the manual/on the door post to see if the size you want was ever fitted to that car as best to stick to a size used by the manufacturer.
She's been to a trusted independent tyre guy a couple of time and he's tested them and believes it's corrosion on the alloys causing leaks. Supported by one of the hubs having corroded so badly it's been replaced - by the local main dealer charging her over £600, which I'm pretty cross about. The wheels and hubs appear to be very low quality materials, not graded to cope with very wet, often salty roads (this is deepest rural west Wales we're talking about, i.e. a swamp).What makes you think it is actually the alloys?
Considerably more likely is the rim of the wheel leaking due to cr@p on the tyre being left & not cleaned off.
If you are right then perhaps best look in the manual/on the door post to see if the size you want was ever fitted to that car as best to stick to a size used by the manufacturer.
I've said maybe she should go back to the tyre place and ask them if they can source wheels for her - she's so fed up with tyres losing pressure persistently that she's even considering trading the car in, but she's not exactly flush enough for that so I'm trying to help save that from happening.
It could just be corrosion on the lip causing poor sealing, in which case a quick refurb will sort the (non) issue out.
There is a place in Bradford I have used a few times until recently that does wheels (in basic white/black/silver) for £1/inch.
As in 16" wheel £16 blasted/powder coated.
As I said, not been there since moving 5 years ago, but I have had around 6 sets of wheels done there while I lived in Leeds.
As in 16" wheel £16 blasted/powder coated.
As I said, not been there since moving 5 years ago, but I have had around 6 sets of wheels done there while I lived in Leeds.
E-bmw said:
Or just squirt some water/washing up liquid onto the rim to see where the air is leaking.
This. A trigger bottle of water with a few drops of washing up liquid is a fine tool for finding air leaks. I used to use it on my Unimog when sand got in the beads, or for airlines on the truck itself.Forums | Suspension, Brakes & Tyres | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff