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Forgive me if it's been covered before but which is the best (reasonably priced) wax to use? I've had good results with the 'Meguires' 3 step but the wax doesn't really stay well being easily marked when drying. Tried microfibre, leathers etc. I've recently tried the Carnuba wax and I find that worse. Any ideas? 
PS; the best results for fetching paint up I've tried is 3M, but can't seem to get it anywhere, appreciate any thoughts.
PS; the best results for fetching paint up I've tried is 3M, but can't seem to get it anywhere, appreciate any thoughts.
I use Victoria Concours wax (small tubs are all you need even though its pricey). I have heard good things about Fusso 99 too which is meant to last up to 12 months.
I would also strongly advise you use Gyeon Bathe+ car shampoo - its is very delicate on the wax and wont strip it plus it lays down its own layer of protection each time you use it (which lasts a couple of weeks). Fantastic stuff and would not use anything else.
I would also strongly advise you use Gyeon Bathe+ car shampoo - its is very delicate on the wax and wont strip it plus it lays down its own layer of protection each time you use it (which lasts a couple of weeks). Fantastic stuff and would not use anything else.
coldel said:
I use Victoria Concours wax (small tubs are all you need even though its pricey). I have heard good things about Fusso 99 too which is meant to last up to 12 months.
I would also strongly advise you use Gyeon Bathe+ car shampoo - its is very delicate on the wax and wont strip it plus it lays down its own layer of protection each time you use it (which lasts a couple of weeks). Fantastic stuff and would not use anything else.
I agree about Gyeon Bathe, it's witchcraft that stuff. I've been told by a detailer to combine it with Gyeon wet coat for even better results.I would also strongly advise you use Gyeon Bathe+ car shampoo - its is very delicate on the wax and wont strip it plus it lays down its own layer of protection each time you use it (which lasts a couple of weeks). Fantastic stuff and would not use anything else.
Its all in how you prepare the paint it needs to be properly decontaminated clean with no scratches and swirls in order to look its best. As for wax have you tried P21S? Its pretty cheap and gives a good wet look finish. Colinite is a synthetic wax, it will last a lot longer than a proper wax.
Also have a look at the Klasse twins, C2v3 and what has to be my favorate wet coat from Gyeon, these are sealants not waxes.
Also have a look at the Klasse twins, C2v3 and what has to be my favorate wet coat from Gyeon, these are sealants not waxes.
Blue62 said:
I agree about Gyeon Bathe, it's witchcraft that stuff. I've been told by a detailer to combine it with Gyeon wet coat for even better results.
Its quite insane how good this stuff is, you literally wash it down after cleaning and the water rolls off like its had a a thousand quids worth of ceramic coating - I would use nothing else from now on to look after the car between waxes.coldel said:
Blue62 said:
I agree about Gyeon Bathe, it's witchcraft that stuff. I've been told by a detailer to combine it with Gyeon wet coat for even better results.
Its quite insane how good this stuff is, you literally wash it down after cleaning and the water rolls off like its had a a thousand quids worth of ceramic coating - I would use nothing else from now on to look after the car between waxes.I already have but a coating on my car (Gtechniq CSL).
I found bathe+ to not foam very well, never felt like there was a good level of lubrication and didn't clean that well.
I went back to Meguiars NXT shampoo or Gtech Gwash.
xjay1337 said:
I found Bathe+ very "meh" at best.
I already have but a coating on my car (Gtechniq CSL).
I found bathe+ to not foam very well, never felt like there was a good level of lubrication and didn't clean that well.
I went back to Meguiars NXT shampoo or Gtech Gwash.
Foaming makes no difference to a shampoos ability to perform, suds are not required and its a myth the more you have the better it works. I already have but a coating on my car (Gtechniq CSL).
I found bathe+ to not foam very well, never felt like there was a good level of lubrication and didn't clean that well.
I went back to Meguiars NXT shampoo or Gtech Gwash.
I'm a big fan of Gtechniq Exo, easy to apply, two coats to ensure even coverage and then once every few weeks I throw a sponge at them.
Really simplifies the washing process and still mega beads after 2 years.
A quick video, my Touareg is nearly 3 years old and had Exo applied on day one by me, never had anything other than Exo put on it and a soapy sponge every now and then -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0fm2d8bdw5h7f0/2017-08-...
Really simplifies the washing process and still mega beads after 2 years.
A quick video, my Touareg is nearly 3 years old and had Exo applied on day one by me, never had anything other than Exo put on it and a soapy sponge every now and then -
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o0fm2d8bdw5h7f0/2017-08-...
xjay1337 said:
I full well know that.
But I like suds.
The reasons I don't like bathe+ are outlined in the rest of my post.
OK. It came across that you felt the lack of suds was a cause of the other points. Lots of people mistakenly think that suds contribute in some way to shampoo performance when in fact they do nothing of the sort and in fact make it harder to see the dirt and grime on the car.But I like suds.
The reasons I don't like bathe+ are outlined in the rest of my post.
NXT is a good cleaner, it though doesn't contain any protectants or sealants which is why i go with Bathe+ which cleans well enough for the frequency I use it (once a week) and has the added advantage of hydrophobic coating in the wash which repel the grime and water in addition to your normal wax laydown.
macdeb said:
Forgive me if it's been covered before but which is the best (reasonably priced) wax to use? I've had good results with the 'Meguires' 3 step but the wax doesn't really stay well being easily marked when drying. Tried microfibre, leathers etc. I've recently tried the Carnuba wax and I find that worse. Any ideas?
PS; the best results for fetching paint up I've tried is 3M, but can't seem to get it anywhere, appreciate any thoughts.
I'm just in the process of detailing the weekend mobile. I've ditched the wax and have gone for kamikaze Miyabi. With the paint prepped properly it should have a wet look like a wet thing, and have a marr resistant finish. PS; the best results for fetching paint up I've tried is 3M, but can't seem to get it anywhere, appreciate any thoughts.
Edited by m4tti on Friday 10th November 14:43
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