Need expert opinion on colour match
Discussion
Can someone please have a look at these pictures and advise. I picked up a 2017 Lexus Rc300h from a dealer on Thursday. Love the car, but noticed in certain lights, that the rear bumper is a much different colour than the rest of the body work...
When I went to view the car initially, there was a scuff on the rear bumper, which was going to a bodywork shop to be fixed. Pre collection. On collection day it was later in the afternoon and raining heavily, so i didn't get a chance to inspect, but i noticed in daylight the next day, that the rear bumper was considerably flatter and darker.
The paint is a 3 stage pearlescent Sonic Red, and i know its hard to match pearlescent paints, and especially between plastics and metal surfaces, but is this acceptable or should I take it back to be redone?
It looks fine in the sunlight, but overcast or dull weather its much more noticeable.
Here's the dull pics..
Here's some sunny pics, where its not so noticeable
Im not sure if this is normal or im being too picky??
When I went to view the car initially, there was a scuff on the rear bumper, which was going to a bodywork shop to be fixed. Pre collection. On collection day it was later in the afternoon and raining heavily, so i didn't get a chance to inspect, but i noticed in daylight the next day, that the rear bumper was considerably flatter and darker.
The paint is a 3 stage pearlescent Sonic Red, and i know its hard to match pearlescent paints, and especially between plastics and metal surfaces, but is this acceptable or should I take it back to be redone?
It looks fine in the sunlight, but overcast or dull weather its much more noticeable.
Here's the dull pics..
Here's some sunny pics, where its not so noticeable
Im not sure if this is normal or im being too picky??
Ah, the old infamous Lexus/Toyota 3U5 paint code!
Good luck whichever bodyshop gets that, its a good job you are not paying as realistically the rear quarters will need painting and some may even go into the doors.
I'm a painter, its a horrible horrible candy, each layer makes it a significantly darker shade, so the smart repair to your bumper has added paint making it darker and its gone far to close to the bumper edge.
Anyway. not your problem, but I wouldn't want to touch it, although I did recently have to do one for a fellow Pistonhead member who couldn't find anyone local who would paint his bumper!!
Good luck whichever bodyshop gets that, its a good job you are not paying as realistically the rear quarters will need painting and some may even go into the doors.
I'm a painter, its a horrible horrible candy, each layer makes it a significantly darker shade, so the smart repair to your bumper has added paint making it darker and its gone far to close to the bumper edge.
Anyway. not your problem, but I wouldn't want to touch it, although I did recently have to do one for a fellow Pistonhead member who couldn't find anyone local who would paint his bumper!!
DaveF-SkinnysAutos said:
Ah, the old infamous Lexus/Toyota 3U5 paint code!
Good luck whichever bodyshop gets that, its a good job you are not paying as realistically the rear quarters will need painting and some may even go into the doors.
I'm a painter, its a horrible horrible candy, each layer makes it a significantly darker shade, so the smart repair to your bumper has added paint making it darker and its gone far to close to the bumper edge.
Anyway. not your problem, but I wouldn't want to touch it, although I did recently have to do one for a fellow Pistonhead member who couldn't find anyone local who would paint his bumper!!
Thanks very much for the reply and confirming. I thought I was going crazy as it looks fine in the sunlight, but so obvious when its dull...at least they've offered to redo it. Bodyshop manager didnt even need to examine it closely, he spotted it from halfway across the car park! Good luck whichever bodyshop gets that, its a good job you are not paying as realistically the rear quarters will need painting and some may even go into the doors.
I'm a painter, its a horrible horrible candy, each layer makes it a significantly darker shade, so the smart repair to your bumper has added paint making it darker and its gone far to close to the bumper edge.
Anyway. not your problem, but I wouldn't want to touch it, although I did recently have to do one for a fellow Pistonhead member who couldn't find anyone local who would paint his bumper!!
It is a cracking colour in the sun though!
Appreciate the response.
mickyc79 said:
It looks fine in the sunlight, but overcast or dull weather its much more noticeable.
Glad to see that it's being resolved - but this is a funny thing about paint. I had a very similar thing with a car a few years ago - in sunshine (I bought it in August) the paint looked perfect. With cloudy sky, a few bits looked about 10 shades darker!
Fortunately, mine was sorted by the dealer as well (I actually got an entire respray for free!) - but I always thought it odd that it was so obvious in cloudy light, but looked perfect in the sunshine.
davek_964 said:
Glad to see that it's being resolved - but this is a funny thing about paint. I had a very similar thing with a car a few years ago - in sunshine (I bought it in August) the paint looked perfect.
With cloudy sky, a few bits looked about 10 shades darker!
Fortunately, mine was sorted by the dealer as well (I actually got an entire respray for free!) - but I always thought it odd that it was so obvious in cloudy light, but looked perfect in the sunshine.
Wow! Full respray would be awesome! I'll happily just take the bumper matching the rest of it, so fingers crossed they can get it to match, or else I'll push for a full respray! Lol With cloudy sky, a few bits looked about 10 shades darker!
Fortunately, mine was sorted by the dealer as well (I actually got an entire respray for free!) - but I always thought it odd that it was so obvious in cloudy light, but looked perfect in the sunshine.
Belle427 said:
I do admire good painters, the first time I had a job done by a decent one I was quite amazed at how I could not see where he had been even though a full panel was not painted.
Fascinates me!
I need to find one. One of my cars has a big chip on the top of the front bumper and I've finally acknowledged that Chipex etc can't solve it. Fascinates me!
I did try a chips away type place but he refused the work because he wasn't confident that he could colour match against the bonnet by just doing the bumper.
It's a silver car so I'd hope not too hard to do
davek_964 said:
I need to find one. One of my cars has a big chip on the top of the front bumper and I've finally acknowledged that Chipex etc can't solve it.
I did try a chips away type place but he refused the work because he wasn't confident that he could colour match against the bonnet by just doing the bumper.
It's a silver car so I'd hope not too hard to do
Silvers are a difficult colour, you need a decent area to blend to ensure that the metallics lay down in the same orientation, therefore giving the same appearance as the rest of the car. If the chip is close to an edge you usually need to blend into an adjoining panel. You can get away with it on a flat colour, but with a silver you get the obvious colour difference between panels which is common on a lot of poorly repaired silver cars.I did try a chips away type place but he refused the work because he wasn't confident that he could colour match against the bonnet by just doing the bumper.
It's a silver car so I'd hope not too hard to do
The only way you might get away with it is if there is a change in shape between the bumper joining the bonnet or something to break up the edges?
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