I need a good paint swirl mark remover
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Monkeez said:
Hi all.
Going to be handing back my lease in the next few months and i need to address the swirl marks in the paintwork.
Why??? That's just fair wear and tear.Going to be handing back my lease in the next few months and i need to address the swirl marks in the paintwork.
https://issuu.com/bfwsn67/docs/fwt_2014_issuu_leas...
You need to change your wash technique if your inflicting swirls after a few washes.
Meguiars ultimate compound is ok for removal.
Bilt Hamber cleanser polish is similar to Autoglym resin but a bit better, this will remove light defects but mainly mask them
Autoglym do a paint restorer but can't say I have tried it
Farecla are also know for their paint correction products.
Meguiars ultimate compound is ok for removal.
Bilt Hamber cleanser polish is similar to Autoglym resin but a bit better, this will remove light defects but mainly mask them
Autoglym do a paint restorer but can't say I have tried it
Farecla are also know for their paint correction products.
Belle427 said:
You need to change your wash technique if your inflicting swirls after a few washes.
Probably. But I've got the two buckets, the big fluffy mitt, two big towels... biggest problem I think is drying. A Vanquish 2 is big with complex shapes and I can't seem to dry it all properly before the water starts drying on. I tried a hot air blower but even that isn't fast enough - and is a lot of faff with cable, extension lead and hose.Simpo Two said:
I tried a hot air blower but even that isn't fast enough - and is a lot of faff with cable, extension lead and hose.
A hot air gun won't move enough air for that job, something more leaf blower-y would be worth a shot,https://www.makitauk.com/product/dub185.html
Simpo Two said:
Belle427 said:
You need to change your wash technique if your inflicting swirls after a few washes.
Probably. But I've got the two buckets, the big fluffy mitt, two big towels... biggest problem I think is drying. A Vanquish 2 is big with complex shapes and I can't seem to dry it all properly before the water starts drying on. I tried a hot air blower but even that isn't fast enough - and is a lot of faff with cable, extension lead and hose.shtu said:
Simpo Two said:
I tried a hot air blower but even that isn't fast enough - and is a lot of faff with cable, extension lead and hose.
A hot air gun won't move enough air for that job, something more leaf blower-y would be worth a shot,https://www.makitauk.com/product/dub185.html
It's very good for drying the wheels, which are a complex design, but is slow to dry the bodywork, blowing tiny droplets back and forth all over the place.
_Hoppers said:
Do you do a pre-wash with snow foam? Keeping the car well waxed also helps with easy removal of dirt with the pre wash. When using the mit add just enough pressure to keep it in contact with the paint, you shouldn't need to apply pressure to wash dirt off.
I hose the car down all over with cold water, then wash with the mitt and Gyeon shampoo. No great pressure. The left side of the car is awkward to reach easily as there's a brick wall 3 feet away. I have a pressure washer (for possibly applying snowfoam) but it's incredibly clumsy with cables and hoses all over the place so I don't use it. I think of it more as something for blasting off crud, but the car doesn't get that dirty.The car was ceramic coated with Gyeon last year by its previous owner hence I use Gyeon shampoo now, and Gyeon ceramic detailer every few washes.
The car will invariably have watermarks after drying so then I use the yellow microfibre cloths, one damp to lift the residue and another to dry.
Sorry to OP for thread hijack but hopefully this is useful info for him too!
Simpo Two said:
shtu said:
Simpo Two said:
I tried a hot air blower but even that isn't fast enough - and is a lot of faff with cable, extension lead and hose.
A hot air gun won't move enough air for that job, something more leaf blower-y would be worth a shot,https://www.makitauk.com/product/dub185.html
It's very good for drying the wheels, which are a complex design, but is slow to dry the bodywork, blowing tiny droplets back and forth all over the place.
_Hoppers said:
Do you do a pre-wash with snow foam? Keeping the car well waxed also helps with easy removal of dirt with the pre wash. When using the mit add just enough pressure to keep it in contact with the paint, you shouldn't need to apply pressure to wash dirt off.
I hose the car down all over with cold water, then wash with the mitt and Gyeon shampoo. No great pressure. The left side of the car is awkward to reach easily as there's a brick wall 3 feet away. I have a pressure washer (for possibly applying snowfoam) but it's incredibly clumsy with cables and hoses all over the place so I don't use it. I think of it more as something for blasting off crud, but the car doesn't get that dirty.The car was ceramic coated with Gyeon last year by its previous owner hence I use Gyeon shampoo now, and Gyeon ceramic detailer every few washes.
The car will invariably have watermarks after drying so then I use the yellow microfibre cloths, one damp to lift the residue and another to dry.
Sorry to OP for thread hijack but hopefully this is useful info for him too!
Also the hose which came with the Karcher was rather annoying when it always tried to curl up on itself! I got one of these flexible rubber hoses, which in hindsight, I should have got when I first bought the K4!
https://www.highdefinitiondetail.co.uk/collections...
Perhaps the mods above might make pressure washing more tolerable?
Simpo Two said:
Do I actually need a pressure washer and/or snow foam?
The car never gets dirtier than the sort of dust you pick up from country lanes, and bits that fall on it from a nearby hedge. They must have been able to keep cars nice before pressure washers and snow foam were invented...
It would probably help if you did use them! If you don't like using your pressure washer, there are other options too.The car never gets dirtier than the sort of dust you pick up from country lanes, and bits that fall on it from a nearby hedge. They must have been able to keep cars nice before pressure washers and snow foam were invented...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/eFoam-Pro-Battery-Powered...
These are a bit spendy, but will get the job done and will use less product than a foam cannon. There's a manual version too - it's cheaper but is hard work! I have the manual version (with a valve) and have added a compressor to do the pumping for me!
You can also use a lot of snow foams in a pump sprayer - they won't foam but they will still do their job as a prewash. Spray it on the car before your initial rinse and it should help - I assume you are rinsing with your hose, so you'd just need to make sure you rinse it thoroughly.
The other thing to try is using. QD when drying the car every time to give a bit of lubrication - it doesn't have to be the ceramic QD every time, maybe try a cheaper one!
Thanks Frank, interesting stuff.
I forgot to mention before that after I've been over it with the mitt + shampoo I do of course rinse it off with a hose - though that's where the watermarks issue arises. I must test the condensate collected lovingly in bottles from my new aircon system... it is in theory distilled water, or at least, can't contain any limescale.
Drying whilst adding QD is something I hadn't thought of. I did, perhaps stupidly, use it to try to remove watermarks once and that probably didn't help with swirlmarks.
Washing a car has never been so complicated! People, don't buy large dark maroon cars with complicated shapes!
ETA If I use snowfoam do I still use shampoo?
I forgot to mention before that after I've been over it with the mitt + shampoo I do of course rinse it off with a hose - though that's where the watermarks issue arises. I must test the condensate collected lovingly in bottles from my new aircon system... it is in theory distilled water, or at least, can't contain any limescale.
Drying whilst adding QD is something I hadn't thought of. I did, perhaps stupidly, use it to try to remove watermarks once and that probably didn't help with swirlmarks.
Washing a car has never been so complicated! People, don't buy large dark maroon cars with complicated shapes!
ETA If I use snowfoam do I still use shampoo?
Simpo Two said:
ETA If I use snowfoam do I still use shampoo?
Literally everything about car washing other than "don't re-use a sponge/mitt/microfibre you've dropped on the ground" is open to your own interpretation and preferences.You can snowfoam and then use the snowfoam suds as your shampoo, if you wish, and it suits your approach.
The primary aim is to avoid adding any further damage to the surface by dragging dirt across it, so hey, maybe snowfoam, rinse, wash with shampoo is better.
But there are very few "for the love of Christ, never do this" cast iron rules.
Now, my preference is
Snowfoam to soften up anything on there.
Rinse to get off some of what's been loosened up.
2-bucket wash with shampoo to "actually" clean one panel at a time
Rinse as I go.
It's as much part of the hobby as anything else to do with being a car enthusiast, and equally as fraught with opinions on the "right" or "optimal" way.
If you step away from the car and think "yeah, I did a nice job there", and look at it the next day and think "I'm satisfied with that", you're doing it right.
I have a set up now that allows me to quickly get going and make life easier.
Pressure washer set up to a 15 meter wall mounted hose reel,resin vessel ready to switch, foam attachment ready filled with bilt Hamber touchless.
Makes life so much easier, I would always pre rinse the car with pressure even if you don't foam.
Ryobi garden blower dispenses with most standing water and then towel to pat dry rather than rubbing.
I personally use foam as intended, spray on rinse off and use a separate shampoo.
Pressure washer set up to a 15 meter wall mounted hose reel,resin vessel ready to switch, foam attachment ready filled with bilt Hamber touchless.
Makes life so much easier, I would always pre rinse the car with pressure even if you don't foam.
Ryobi garden blower dispenses with most standing water and then towel to pat dry rather than rubbing.
I personally use foam as intended, spray on rinse off and use a separate shampoo.
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