Classic Ebay adverts that don't want you to buy
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Always amazes me how negative or aggressive some advertisers can be when trying to sell something a bit rare. This one's something I've been interested in for a while but I don't think I'd go for this particular one!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/406647702396?_skw=class...
"Gilbern invader mk2, Great driving car, chassis is solid and original, usual paintwork for 54 year old fiberglass car, good strong engine V6 Essex. Gear box smooth four gears plus overdrive. Interior fantastic condition. Full stainless from manifold back. Probably need a day with auto electrician passenger window not working ( electric), horn, indicators not working simple fixes but electrical stuff is not my thing. She a good drivers car which is what she was made to do. Please bear in mind that this car was hand built in a shed in wales! She will need constant maintenance she’s also heavy when not moving you will need muscle. Wheels are gold as shown been refurbished and new Pirelli tyres fitted, she just waiting for a new home. Selling as Iv decided to buy newer weekend cars no time to keep up the maintenance. She £7500 buy it now which is stupid cheap but I know the classic car market if flat at the moment. But I won’t be going any lower, if not sold in next 7 days she will be going into secure storage.
Any serious questions please ask. No I don’t want you part ex or a swap so don’t ask. Car is located close to Cardiff airport. Many thanks Robert.
Please for the love of god, if you’re thinking of contacting me, go look in the mirror and be honest with yourself! If there’s an old fart looking back at you with arthritis and you struggled to get to the mirror in the first place. DO NOT MESSAGE. "
So for 54 year old paint - Couldn't be bothered to touch it up and spend the money. If its down through the gelcoat 3-4k for a good respray. 1-2 doing all the prep oneself.
Needs a full day with an electrician - You can cover all the bills for the bits that don't work!
I know the market is flat - but want full going rate for a car that wouldn't pass an MOT
Never any info about how long they've owned it or how often it's been used or not.
As for the last bit - words fail!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/406647702396?_skw=class...
"Gilbern invader mk2, Great driving car, chassis is solid and original, usual paintwork for 54 year old fiberglass car, good strong engine V6 Essex. Gear box smooth four gears plus overdrive. Interior fantastic condition. Full stainless from manifold back. Probably need a day with auto electrician passenger window not working ( electric), horn, indicators not working simple fixes but electrical stuff is not my thing. She a good drivers car which is what she was made to do. Please bear in mind that this car was hand built in a shed in wales! She will need constant maintenance she’s also heavy when not moving you will need muscle. Wheels are gold as shown been refurbished and new Pirelli tyres fitted, she just waiting for a new home. Selling as Iv decided to buy newer weekend cars no time to keep up the maintenance. She £7500 buy it now which is stupid cheap but I know the classic car market if flat at the moment. But I won’t be going any lower, if not sold in next 7 days she will be going into secure storage.
Any serious questions please ask. No I don’t want you part ex or a swap so don’t ask. Car is located close to Cardiff airport. Many thanks Robert.
Please for the love of god, if you’re thinking of contacting me, go look in the mirror and be honest with yourself! If there’s an old fart looking back at you with arthritis and you struggled to get to the mirror in the first place. DO NOT MESSAGE. "
So for 54 year old paint - Couldn't be bothered to touch it up and spend the money. If its down through the gelcoat 3-4k for a good respray. 1-2 doing all the prep oneself.
Needs a full day with an electrician - You can cover all the bills for the bits that don't work!
I know the market is flat - but want full going rate for a car that wouldn't pass an MOT
Never any info about how long they've owned it or how often it's been used or not.
As for the last bit - words fail!
tms996 said:
Always amazes me how negative or aggressive some advertisers can be when trying to sell something a bit rare. This one's something I've been interested in for a while but I don't think I'd go for this particular one!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/406647702396?_skw=class...
"Gilbern invader mk2, Great driving car, chassis is solid and original, usual paintwork for 54 year old fiberglass car, good strong engine V6 Essex. Gear box smooth four gears plus overdrive. Interior fantastic condition. Full stainless from manifold back. Probably need a day with auto electrician passenger window not working ( electric), horn, indicators not working simple fixes but electrical stuff is not my thing. She a good drivers car which is what she was made to do. Please bear in mind that this car was hand built in a shed in wales! She will need constant maintenance she s also heavy when not moving you will need muscle. Wheels are gold as shown been refurbished and new Pirelli tyres fitted, she just waiting for a new home. Selling as Iv decided to buy newer weekend cars no time to keep up the maintenance. She £7500 buy it now which is stupid cheap but I know the classic car market if flat at the moment. But I won t be going any lower, if not sold in next 7 days she will be going into secure storage.
Any serious questions please ask. No I don t want you part ex or a swap so don t ask. Car is located close to Cardiff airport. Many thanks Robert.
Please for the love of god, if you re thinking of contacting me, go look in the mirror and be honest with yourself! If there s an old fart looking back at you with arthritis and you struggled to get to the mirror in the first place. DO NOT MESSAGE. "
So for 54 year old paint - Couldn't be bothered to touch it up and spend the money. If its down through the gelcoat 3-4k for a good respray. 1-2 doing all the prep oneself.
Needs a full day with an electrician - You can cover all the bills for the bits that don't work!
I know the market is flat - but want full going rate for a car that wouldn't pass an MOT
Never any info about how long they've owned it or how often it's been used or not.
As for the last bit - words fail!
No affiliation, so not defending. But...https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/406647702396?_skw=class...
"Gilbern invader mk2, Great driving car, chassis is solid and original, usual paintwork for 54 year old fiberglass car, good strong engine V6 Essex. Gear box smooth four gears plus overdrive. Interior fantastic condition. Full stainless from manifold back. Probably need a day with auto electrician passenger window not working ( electric), horn, indicators not working simple fixes but electrical stuff is not my thing. She a good drivers car which is what she was made to do. Please bear in mind that this car was hand built in a shed in wales! She will need constant maintenance she s also heavy when not moving you will need muscle. Wheels are gold as shown been refurbished and new Pirelli tyres fitted, she just waiting for a new home. Selling as Iv decided to buy newer weekend cars no time to keep up the maintenance. She £7500 buy it now which is stupid cheap but I know the classic car market if flat at the moment. But I won t be going any lower, if not sold in next 7 days she will be going into secure storage.
Any serious questions please ask. No I don t want you part ex or a swap so don t ask. Car is located close to Cardiff airport. Many thanks Robert.
Please for the love of god, if you re thinking of contacting me, go look in the mirror and be honest with yourself! If there s an old fart looking back at you with arthritis and you struggled to get to the mirror in the first place. DO NOT MESSAGE. "
So for 54 year old paint - Couldn't be bothered to touch it up and spend the money. If its down through the gelcoat 3-4k for a good respray. 1-2 doing all the prep oneself.
Needs a full day with an electrician - You can cover all the bills for the bits that don't work!
I know the market is flat - but want full going rate for a car that wouldn't pass an MOT
Never any info about how long they've owned it or how often it's been used or not.
As for the last bit - words fail!
We've all sold cars with paint that "could be better" and we've all weighed up the costs of getting it done vs. how much to ask for the car.
Anyone buying a 50 year old British car expecting a full complement of working electrics is dreaming. A full day with an auto electrician will see everything working... for that day.
The only Invaders I've seen for anything around this money looked in far worse shape.
Lack of info about ownership history might be important to you, but isn't to everybody. At least there's a decent array of pictures, including the interior.
Not sure why the seller has a beef with older, less agile buyers - that's just weird.
Also, listing has ended. Sold? Disgruntled? Who knows...
He was doing quite well until he got to the ageism bit.
I’m an old fart and having spent today trying to repair a leaking Algarvian roof in driving rain I can now confirm that I tick the arthritic box also.
In my Cardiffian school days I shared many a beer with the son of Giles Smith (the “Gil” of Gilbern). I’ve always admired Gilberns - particularly the ex-Ken Wilson Chevy V8 GT that has featured on this forum before now & which I watched race in period.
Having sold my Fulvia Coupe I’ve been yearning for a replacement - preferably something relatively easy to maintain with a hex or oct V engine under the bonnet.
So, an arthritic old fart with a weakness for Gilberns and a modicum of spare cash could have been his salvation. However eBay has become a rather dishonest and angry place & for that reason I would have been out.
(to his credit he didn’t resort to pushing the dreaded AI description button).
I’m an old fart and having spent today trying to repair a leaking Algarvian roof in driving rain I can now confirm that I tick the arthritic box also.
In my Cardiffian school days I shared many a beer with the son of Giles Smith (the “Gil” of Gilbern). I’ve always admired Gilberns - particularly the ex-Ken Wilson Chevy V8 GT that has featured on this forum before now & which I watched race in period.
Having sold my Fulvia Coupe I’ve been yearning for a replacement - preferably something relatively easy to maintain with a hex or oct V engine under the bonnet.
So, an arthritic old fart with a weakness for Gilberns and a modicum of spare cash could have been his salvation. However eBay has become a rather dishonest and angry place & for that reason I would have been out.
(to his credit he didn’t resort to pushing the dreaded AI description button).
Seems like he might have turned off at least three buyers then as I was in the mood the contact him and ask a few questions.
Ebay has become rather full recently of traders selling cars for their 'friend' or elderly relative who ' doesn't' come on here'. It always makes me think, if they are trying to help out in this way, surely contact the owners clubs first for a fair estimate and selling advice. Quite often small clubs have a list of potential buyers ready.,
Ebay has become rather full recently of traders selling cars for their 'friend' or elderly relative who ' doesn't' come on here'. It always makes me think, if they are trying to help out in this way, surely contact the owners clubs first for a fair estimate and selling advice. Quite often small clubs have a list of potential buyers ready.,
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Ebay has become rather full recently of traders selling cars for their 'friend' or elderly relative who ' doesn't' come on here'. It always makes me think, if they are trying to help out in this way, surely contact the owners clubs first for a fair estimate and selling advice. Quite often small clubs have a list of potential buyers ready.,
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Or ‘Must sell as emigrating’. =. Don’t come back when it breaks down next week
Ebay has become rather full recently of traders selling cars for their 'friend' or elderly relative who ' doesn't' come on here'. It always makes me think, if they are trying to help out in this way, surely contact the owners clubs first for a fair estimate and selling advice. Quite often small clubs have a list of potential buyers ready.,
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Or ‘Must sell as emigrating’. =. Don’t come back when it breaks down next week
There was a chap in Kent somewhere with a rather tired De Tomaso Longchamp a while back who was demanding a cash deposit and a personal letter of recommendation from the Argentinian Ambassador (or something along those lines) before he would get it out of the garage. Most bizarre.
But I think a lot of it, particularly with unusual cars, is probably frustration with all the people who just want to come and see it, or tell you that they had one 40 years ago.
But I think a lot of it, particularly with unusual cars, is probably frustration with all the people who just want to come and see it, or tell you that they had one 40 years ago.
Carfield said:
There was a chap in Kent somewhere with a rather tired De Tomaso Longchamp a while back who was demanding a cash deposit and a personal letter of recommendation from the Argentinian Ambassador (or something along those lines) before he would get it out of the garage. Most bizarre.
I remember that one; IIRC he wanted proof of funds before he’d let you look at it. Beige (or perhaps light gold) it hadn’t moved for 20 years and he wanted £40K for it which was far more than the price of a good running one at the time. tms996 said:
Always amazes me how negative or aggressive some advertisers can be when trying to sell something a bit rare. This one's something I've been interested in for a while but I don't think I'd go for this particular one!
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/406647702396?
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Please for the love of god, if you re thinking of contacting me, go look in the mirror and be honest with yourself! If there s an old fart looking back at you with arthritis and you struggled to get to the mirror in the first place. DO NOT MESSAGE. "
So for 54 year old paint - Couldn't be bothered to touch it up and spend the money. If its down through the gelcoat 3-4k for a good respray. 1-2 doing all the prep oneself.
Needs a full day with an electrician - You can cover all the bills for the bits that don't work!
I know the market is flat - but want full going rate for a car that wouldn't pass an MOT
Never any info about how long they've owned it or how often it's been used or not.
As for the last bit - words fail!
Judging by this picture with the cushion on the driver's seat, I can picture the seller himself being "an old fart .... with arthritis".https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/406647702396?
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Please for the love of god, if you re thinking of contacting me, go look in the mirror and be honest with yourself! If there s an old fart looking back at you with arthritis and you struggled to get to the mirror in the first place. DO NOT MESSAGE. "
So for 54 year old paint - Couldn't be bothered to touch it up and spend the money. If its down through the gelcoat 3-4k for a good respray. 1-2 doing all the prep oneself.
Needs a full day with an electrician - You can cover all the bills for the bits that don't work!
I know the market is flat - but want full going rate for a car that wouldn't pass an MOT
Never any info about how long they've owned it or how often it's been used or not.
As for the last bit - words fail!
BTW a very nice garage there, even an airline on the wall - very professional.....
I'm used to having a few timewasters when selling a classic car but its part of the experience when you advertise it, if its something unusual. In the end you can always enter it in to an auction, which I did with mine last year, and then you don't have to be rude to potential buyers on Ebay.
I've never agreed that the age of a car should dictate the quality of the paintwork. If it's 54 or 30 years old and needs a repaint because its down to the gelcoat, get it done, as it only starts letting moisture in. My 40 year old Matra need the roof and rear doing. I chose to get the whole car done instead and it looked great, probably better than new. If the paint needs doing, get it done.!
Much like the cushion o the seat, it's probably covering up work that needs doing.
I've never agreed that the age of a car should dictate the quality of the paintwork. If it's 54 or 30 years old and needs a repaint because its down to the gelcoat, get it done, as it only starts letting moisture in. My 40 year old Matra need the roof and rear doing. I chose to get the whole car done instead and it looked great, probably better than new. If the paint needs doing, get it done.!
Much like the cushion o the seat, it's probably covering up work that needs doing.
FlyVintage said:
I remember that one; IIRC he wanted proof of funds before he d let you look at it. Beige (or perhaps light gold) it hadn t moved for 20 years and he wanted £40K for it which was far more than the price of a good running one at the time.
Yes, that’s the one, a sort of gold colour I think, although the pictures were so bad it was hard to tell. I wonder if he ever sold it!Carfield said:
FlyVintage said:
I remember that one; IIRC he wanted proof of funds before he d let you look at it. Beige (or perhaps light gold) it hadn t moved for 20 years and he wanted £40K for it which was far more than the price of a good running one at the time.
Yes, that s the one, a sort of gold colour I think, although the pictures were so bad it was hard to tell. I wonder if he ever sold it!
It's a reasonable to-the-point advert, and the seller is a semi-miserable sod like me.
Anybody who genuinely wants a Gilbern Invader will just go, armed with cash and do a deal.
The rest who 'will need to have a think' (what's to think about? You either want it or you don't) or just turn up to have a natter with the owner can sod off. Selling cars has always been 5 d
heads to one actual buyer, and none of us want the former.
Anybody who genuinely wants a Gilbern Invader will just go, armed with cash and do a deal.
The rest who 'will need to have a think' (what's to think about? You either want it or you don't) or just turn up to have a natter with the owner can sod off. Selling cars has always been 5 d
heads to one actual buyer, and none of us want the former.
My vote is that he's just a grumpy, grimy old sod. Gassing Station | Classic Cars and Yesterday's Heroes | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff