Less than ideal classic car storage
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Hippea

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3,868 posts

99 months

Saturday 12th September
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I currently find myself in a scenario in which I have less than ideal storage for a classic car, a 1969 Volvo Amazon in good unrestored condition. My neighbour is a friendly farmer who is happy for me to store it in an open barn (which it’s been in all summer) or a standard shipping container. Now we are entering colder times how mad is it storing it in an open barn? It’s water tight but open to the elements from the front and obviously not insulated. Or should I stick it in a shipping container?

Barn is similar to below but empty



bobtail4x4

4,411 posts

139 months

Saturday 12th September
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the open barn is the best solution for storage, plenty of air movement,

until the rats find it,

a container will sweat intermally,

Penny Whistle

7,673 posts

200 months

Saturday 12th September
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I've heard too many tales of serious condensation in containers to consider that option. I guess if you have power there then a dehumidifier might mitigate. I'd prefer a breathable well-fitting car cover in the open barn. With several mousetraps scattered around. And take the car out for a drive as frequently as possible.

Olivera

8,777 posts

269 months

Saturday 12th September
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Storing a car in a metal shipping container in the UK is about the worst idea possible. Go for the barn.

aeropilot

40,693 posts

257 months

Saturday 12th September
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bobtail4x4 said:
the open barn is the best solution for storage, plenty of air movement,

until the rats find it,
Rats will be the big issue in the barn.

CABC

6,299 posts

131 months

Saturday 12th September
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Carcoon with 12v deep discharge battery will last a week. even if it deflates it's still sealed.
rats and mice love a stationary car.

Hippea

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3,868 posts

99 months

Saturday 12th September
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aeropilot said:
bobtail4x4 said:
the open barn is the best solution for storage, plenty of air movement,

until the rats find it,
Rats will be the big issue in the barn.
Even if it’s cleaned and checked on regularly? The barn is 5 minutes from me

niva441

2,164 posts

261 months

Sunday 13th September
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I had my car in a council lock up with a metal roof. The car was always covered in the condensation dripping off the roof in cooler weather.

Hippea

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99 months

Sunday 13th September
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niva441 said:
I had my car in a council lock up with a metal roof. The car was always covered in the condensation dripping off the roof in cooler weather.
A friend has a similar problem, the council replaced the asbestos roof with a metal one and now it s really bad for condensation. Never had a problem before.

This is the problem with the open barn, although it s great for air circulation the car is covered in dew overnight. I’m not sure how detrimental this is

Penny Whistle

7,673 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th September
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I think your best option is, as suggested above, to invest in a carcoon and a couple of big leisure batteries, one in use and one on charge at home.

OutInTheShed

14,564 posts

56 months

Sunday 13th September
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A friend of mine had a lot of his stuff in a container all last winter. He's over the border in Cornwall.
Last winter was very, very wet down here, but all his stuff was fine due to:
1) Nothing goes in the container unless it's properly dry.
2) The container has a good floor and is raised on concrete supports, so no rising damp.
3) About £25 worth of 'chemical moisture remover' things

Barns, around here, often have damp floors. And open buildings in certain weather conditions you get as much dew as you do outside, both on your car and on the underside of the un-insulated roof. Your local climate may vary!

Personally, I think it's important to check things frequently.

-Cappo-

20,869 posts

233 months

Sunday 13th September
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Every time someone asks about storing a car in a shipper, the same replies about condensation are given.

Have any of you (except the poster above) actually stored a car in a shipper? I have, more than once. They re ventilated, and there s never a drop of moisture in there, winter or summer.

I know someone with an 5 acre garden and all his ride-ons, a quad, chainsaws, etc etc are stored in a container. They don t get wet.

I know of companies who offer long-term domestic storage. Those goods are all kept in shippers. A mate s company uses cardboard packaging extensively. All the new cardboard is stored in several 40 footers. Wouldn t be much use if it came out damp.

@OP, the shipper is by far your best option. The condensation thing is a myth.

aeropilot

40,693 posts

257 months

Sunday 13th September
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Penny Whistle said:
I think your best option is, as suggested above, to invest in a carcoon and a couple of big leisure batteries, one in use and one on charge at home.
Yep, I agree, especially as its only 5mins away.
Assuming barn owner would be OK with that.

wibble cb

4,152 posts

237 months

Sunday 13th September
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Mine is stored in a wooden garage that is not particularly airtight, under a cotton cloth cover, now been 15 years, the car isn’t any worse than when we bought the house, airflow really helps I think.

Geertsen

1,908 posts

89 months

Sunday 13th September
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What about putting the shipping container in the corner of the barn (in the orientation of those hay bales in the photo) and leaving the doors open. That would be very dry and nicely ventilated.

aeropilot

40,693 posts

257 months

Sunday 13th September
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Geertsen said:
What about putting the shipping container in the corner of the barn (in the orientation of those hay bales in the photo) and leaving the doors open. That would be very dry and nicely ventilated.
Won't stop the rats though, which is the bigger problem in any open barn type location.

Geertsen

1,908 posts

89 months

Sunday 13th September
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aeropilot said:
Geertsen said:
What about putting the shipping container in the corner of the barn (in the orientation of those hay bales in the photo) and leaving the doors open. That would be very dry and nicely ventilated.
Won't stop the rats though, which is the bigger problem in any open barn type location.
Would rats be a problem in an open and completely empty barn? (genuine question as I don’t have specific knowledge on this).

aeropilot

40,693 posts

257 months

Sunday 13th September
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Geertsen said:
aeropilot said:
Geertsen said:
What about putting the shipping container in the corner of the barn (in the orientation of those hay bales in the photo) and leaving the doors open. That would be very dry and nicely ventilated.
Won't stop the rats though, which is the bigger problem in any open barn type location.
Would rats be a problem in an open and completely empty barn? (genuine question as I don t have specific knowledge on this).
If there's hay stored in there as per photo of barn in OP, then yes. The little bds are everywhere on farms.

Hippea

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3,868 posts

99 months

Sunday 13th September
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aeropilot said:
Geertsen said:
aeropilot said:
Geertsen said:
What about putting the shipping container in the corner of the barn (in the orientation of those hay bales in the photo) and leaving the doors open. That would be very dry and nicely ventilated.
Won't stop the rats though, which is the bigger problem in any open barn type location.
Would rats be a problem in an open and completely empty barn? (genuine question as I don t have specific knowledge on this).
If there's hay stored in there as per photo of barn in OP, then yes. The little bds are everywhere on farms.
The barn is totally empty apart from a grey Fergie tractor the farmer owns, no hay stored in there. That photo is just an example I found online, it s not the actually barn but similar in layout

Geertsen

1,908 posts

89 months

Sunday 13th September
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I’d personally put the car in a shipping container with a hygrometer which records humidity through the day and night to start with. If you find it’s damp then I’d change the plan.

I use TempPro branded ones and they record temperatures and humidity in a free app.

Obviously the container has the added benefit of increased security and protection from contamination (farm dust, bird droppings, etc).