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Super Sonic

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10,862 posts

73 months

Saturday 1st November
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Just bought a 98 Civic with the d16 engine, and the seller advised me to use Morrisons' super unleaded as it has the lowest ethanol, and was better than other garage's super which wouldn't do the fuel system any good.
Any thoughts or comments?

Smollet

14,064 posts

209 months

Saturday 1st November
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Super Sonic said:
Just bought a 98 Civic with the d16 engine, and the seller advised me to use Morrisons' super unleaded as it has the lowest ethanol, and was better than other garage's super which wouldn't do the fuel system any good.
Any thoughts or comments?
Esso 99 in some areas is still 0 ethanol

FlyVintage

240 posts

10 months

Saturday 1st November
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Smollet said:
Super Sonic said:
Just bought a 98 Civic with the d16 engine, and the seller advised me to use Morrisons' super unleaded as it has the lowest ethanol, and was better than other garage's super which wouldn't do the fuel system any good.
Any thoughts or comments?
Esso 99 in some areas is still 0 ethanol
That finished in September 2023 I believe. Now it has 5% like everyone else frown

Riley Blue

22,689 posts

245 months

Saturday 1st November
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FlyVintage said:
Smollet said:
Super Sonic said:
Just bought a 98 Civic with the d16 engine, and the seller advised me to use Morrisons' super unleaded as it has the lowest ethanol, and was better than other garage's super which wouldn't do the fuel system any good.
Any thoughts or comments?
Esso 99 in some areas is still 0 ethanol
That finished in September 2023 I believe. Now it has 5% like everyone else frown
Yup, that's what I thought too however 5% shouldn't do any damage. I use Tesco Momentum E5 99RON in my '63 Riley with no issues whatsoever so far. I believe Sainsbury's Super Unleaded is 97RON.

CanAm

12,076 posts

291 months

Saturday 1st November
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Riley Blue said:
Yup, that's what I thought too however 5% shouldn't do any damage. I use Tesco Momentum E5 99RON in my '63 Riley with no issues whatsoever so far. I believe Sainsbury's Super Unleaded is 97RON.
I also use Tesco E5, partly because of the higher octane rating, but also as although their E10 is a fraction dearer than my local garage, their E5 is about 8p/litre cheaper and is 99 rather than 97 RON. A double whammy!

InitialDave

14,040 posts

138 months

Saturday 1st November
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FlyVintage said:
That finished in September 2023 I believe. Now it has 5% like everyone else frown
Yes, frustratingly, as with all these brands, it's up to 5%, so there's no way to be really certain how much is actually in there (other than testing it, and, well... will the next tanker load be the same?

Super Sonic

Original Poster:

10,862 posts

73 months

Saturday 1st November
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CanAm said:
Riley Blue said:
Yup, that's what I thought too however 5% shouldn't do any damage. I use Tesco Momentum E5 99RON in my '63 Riley with no issues whatsoever so far. I believe Sainsbury's Super Unleaded is 97RON.
I also use Tesco E5, partly because of the higher octane rating, but also as although their E10 is a fraction dearer than my local garage, their E5 is about 8p/litre cheaper and is 99 rather than 97 RON. A double whammy!
I always used this in my Accord R which preferred super unleaded and never had any problems.
Thanks everybody.

OutInTheShed

12,640 posts

45 months

Saturday 1st November
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Super Sonic said:
Just bought a 98 Civic with the d16 engine, and the seller advised me to use Morrisons' super unleaded as it has the lowest ethanol, and was better than other garage's super which wouldn't do the fuel system any good.
Any thoughts or comments?
A '98 car probably has a lot of fuel system components which are showing their age anyway.
Things like fuel hoses gone very stiff, maybe prone to cracking.
Most of the parts affected by ethanol are lifed items which should have been replaced by now.


If the car has not been in regular use recently, it might pay to run a tank of BP's expensive stuff through it, it's not just about the ethanol, but also the cleanser additives. I've found this to help with EFI bikes which run fine on Tesco's cheapest unleaded in regular use.
When was the fuel filter last changed?

Mr Tidy

27,993 posts

146 months

Saturday 1st November
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AFAIK Shell, Esso and Tesco are the only E5 options that are 99RON.

BP, Jet, Sainsburys and Morrisons E5 are all 97 RON, so I try to avoid them as both my cars are supposed to get a minimum of 98 RON "whenever possible"!

Mr_Megalomaniac

1,046 posts

85 months

I use Shell 99 with an additive (Castrol Classic Etha guard or similar will do) for a 1965 and seems to be working well so far