Really interesting house buying question
Really interesting house buying question
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rfisher

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5,051 posts

306 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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So I'm planning to make a developer an offer on a house that's not yet completed on a development where around half the completed houses are not sold.

I don't want to make the offer to the sales bint in the showhome or the local manager who is probably about to be made redundant.

So to whom do I make my pitch?

Is it easy to find out who the head man/woman/child is? Should I just ask the sales bint who the real boss is?

Ta.

prand

6,230 posts

219 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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It shouldn't be too hard to find out who the Chief Exec or owner is. Companies house records, annual reports, company website etc. And I'm sure they'll be delighted in receiving a call from you, seeing as you feel you're too important to deal with the scum who work for him.

rfisher

Original Poster:

5,051 posts

306 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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Easy tiger.

Just want to talk to someone who is in a position to make a deal.

I don't want to wait while a telephone message from the showhome bint sits on the area manager's desk for a week before being chucked in the bin.

You OK with that?

Jasandjules

71,989 posts

252 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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rfisher said:
I don't want to make the offer to the sales bint in the showhome or the local manager who is probably about to be made redundant.
Why not? The sales person is surely the person who is paid to sell houses, which means she has to meet buyers and close deals. I think you fall under the umbrella of a buyer, sooooooo....

El Guapo

2,787 posts

213 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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To be honest, your question is no more than moderately interesting

rfisher

Original Poster:

5,051 posts

306 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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Yeah, actually it should read "Really interesting house - buying question".


Evil Edna

389 posts

256 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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prand said:
It shouldn't be too hard to find out who the Chief Exec or owner is. Companies house records, annual reports, company website etc. And I'm sure they'll be delighted in receiving a call from you, seeing as you feel you're too important to deal with the scum who work for him.
Some people prefer to talk to the organ-grinder, not their monkey.

Nothing wrong with that.

prand

6,230 posts

219 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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I'm sure if your offer is serious, you will get a deal, whoever you speak to. And why not give "the bint" a bit of credit (and respect) to be able to do a deal with you? I'm not surprised your enquiries get binned if you turn up with that sort of attitude.

deckster

9,631 posts

278 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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Evil Edna said:
prand said:
It shouldn't be too hard to find out who the Chief Exec or owner is. Companies house records, annual reports, company website etc. And I'm sure they'll be delighted in receiving a call from you, seeing as you feel you're too important to deal with the scum who work for him.
Some people prefer to talk to the organ-grinder, not their monkey.

Nothing wrong with that.
Er, yes, there is. Presumably the owner/principal/big white chief has employed somebody to do exactly this job - take leads, accept and negotiate offers. If I was said owner, and some snotty nosed buyer came to me because he doesn't want to deal with the 'monkeys' that I have selected to do that job, I know what my reaction would be.

ali_kat

32,142 posts

244 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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deckster said:
Evil Edna said:
prand said:
It shouldn't be too hard to find out who the Chief Exec or owner is. Companies house records, annual reports, company website etc. And I'm sure they'll be delighted in receiving a call from you, seeing as you feel you're too important to deal with the scum who work for him.
Some people prefer to talk to the organ-grinder, not their monkey.

Nothing wrong with that.
Er, yes, there is. Presumably the owner/principal/big white chief has employed somebody to do exactly this job - take leads, accept and negotiate offers. If I was said owner, and some snotty nosed buyer came to me because he doesn't want to deal with the 'monkeys' that I have selected to do that job, I know what my reaction would be.
Having worked for a couple of the big builders in the past, its quite simple, they won't talk to him. like others have already said, they have the staff to do that. Highest he'll get is the Sales Manager for that area, and only there through the 'bint' in the showroom IF she likes him hehe

Edited by ali_kat on Saturday 28th February 15:26

Jasandjules

71,989 posts

252 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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Well exactly, the fellow in charge will be "in a meeting" a lot.......... That could be the reason why he is paying people to sell for him.

ncs

3,973 posts

305 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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Surely you would be better off getting the "bint" on side by being the charming man you obviously are. Once she's on side get her do do what you obviously feel is the lowly task she is paid for...& haggle.

Just a gentle dig mate...read your post agin & you might see why others think you are coming across as a bit harsh

Nicknerd

Mr Fenix

863 posts

228 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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I don't think I see a problem here? Go to sales woman, explain you are very serious about buying, get manager's details and then speak to both of them. Wait for manager to speak to his superior about selling an unfinished house and see what happens. To be honest you may find a lot of red tape and building regs thrown in your face.

rfisher

Original Poster:

5,051 posts

306 months

Saturday 28th February 2009
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Mr Fenix said:
I don't think I see a problem here? Go to sales woman, explain you are very serious about buying, get manager's details and then speak to both of them. Wait for manager to speak to his superior about selling an unfinished house and see what happens. To be honest you may find a lot of red tape and building regs thrown in your face.
That's very helpful - thanks.

I think the problem may be that the mortgage lender will want to set a staged loan dependent on the progress of the build. The developer will want all the money up front to pay their contractors.

Obviously some on here find the word bint offensive - apologies.

I've had several encounters with the sales person on this development and others by this builder and found all the sales people uninterested in the process of selling. They seem resigned to not selling and are still determined to only talk about the original (very inflated) prices.

The last house I bought on a new development was handled in a much more professional manner.


Johnny

9,652 posts

307 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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I keep reading it, but it's still not interesting me. Do I need 3D glasses? A sense of humour failure?

gordon lonsdale

109 posts

215 months

Sunday 1st March 2009
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Shag with bint in showhouse, get her completely infatuated with you..ready to die for you ..then and only then make your offer.Always works for me.