Scanner that sees emergency vehicles
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I am not talking about road angel stuff.
There is a £1200 scanner on the market now that shows all emergency vehicles, It scans for short radio signals on the airwave network.
One of the YouTubers was promoting it. It is called the target blue eye 2
My question is: would a Police car have anything on board that would passively scan and know that someone has one of these? I am not sure how it could. The system is TETRA
I don’t plan on buying one, just a curious question that someone raised. I know they are not illegal but I doubt the police would like to see them being used.
Maybe a traffic cop could answer, please?
There is a £1200 scanner on the market now that shows all emergency vehicles, It scans for short radio signals on the airwave network.
One of the YouTubers was promoting it. It is called the target blue eye 2
My question is: would a Police car have anything on board that would passively scan and know that someone has one of these? I am not sure how it could. The system is TETRA
I don’t plan on buying one, just a curious question that someone raised. I know they are not illegal but I doubt the police would like to see them being used.
Maybe a traffic cop could answer, please?
Is it illegal to know where police cars are stopped?
Sounds like #cough# "a safety system", from AI:
"Target Blu Eye 2 is a traffic safety system that alerts drivers to the presence of approaching emergency service vehicles, such as police cars, ambulances, and fire engines, using TETRA technology. It provides both visual and audible warnings, enhancing safety for drivers and emergency responders."
TX.
Sounds like #cough# "a safety system", from AI:
"Target Blu Eye 2 is a traffic safety system that alerts drivers to the presence of approaching emergency service vehicles, such as police cars, ambulances, and fire engines, using TETRA technology. It provides both visual and audible warnings, enhancing safety for drivers and emergency responders."
TX.
Edited by Terminator X on Thursday 12th February 09:37
I have seen Car Audio Security plugging these. One excuse was that it gives you prior notice of an approaching emergency vehicle, thus giving to chance to move over safely. I assume alerting you of a Police (or other) presence isn't illegal, it's then what you do with that knowledge. Something like the original radar detectors were. As you say, I'd be interested to know the legal / Police view of them. I admit, I had radar detectors back in the day, but they weren't terribly good. Supermarket auto opening doors and traffic lights could also set the alerts off. Also, as often as not, by the time it had picked up a "radar" signal, you were on top of it anyway. Not sure if I could justify, or would want, anything similar now, although I may have been pinged by an infra red camera on the M5 the other morning, so my view may vary soon ! Mind you, is a camera van, an "emergency vehicle" ?
I also had one of the old scanners in my Cerbera and it had so many false alarms (auto doors) that I stopped using it..,that was about 25 yrs ago though.
I am not sure these would save you from laser vans etc as there is no scanner for that, I doubt they are on their radios unless radio ahead to a car to stop you. I think it might be a good thing on my motorbike but really you should be good enough at observation to see an emergency vehicle. The one big benefit I can see is for unmarked police cars if you were, perhaps, using a poorly calibrated speedo and over the limit? (Ahem)
I am not sure these would save you from laser vans etc as there is no scanner for that, I doubt they are on their radios unless radio ahead to a car to stop you. I think it might be a good thing on my motorbike but really you should be good enough at observation to see an emergency vehicle. The one big benefit I can see is for unmarked police cars if you were, perhaps, using a poorly calibrated speedo and over the limit? (Ahem)
Edited by Caddyshack on Thursday 12th February 10:48
Legality of use is not in question, I am sure they are legal. It is the police perception of they somehow could tell if you were using one.
I expect a response of “safety device” if questioned after a pull over would be accepted but not liked.
My main question was if the Police had a way of their car telling them you were using one, someone suggested to me that the police car would know…they also gave a Walter Mitty suggestion that general public won’t know what scanners the police have and suggested he knew
I expect a response of “safety device” if questioned after a pull over would be accepted but not liked.
My main question was if the Police had a way of their car telling them you were using one, someone suggested to me that the police car would know…they also gave a Walter Mitty suggestion that general public won’t know what scanners the police have and suggested he knew
This is surely little different to the police radio scanners? The cops used to put out false messages of an incident then book anyone who turned up at the non-event.
Personally I find a rear view mirror a lot cheaper as a blue light detector unit. Also an early warning that some idiot in front may well hit the brakes regardless of circumstances - like being in the middle of roadworks
Personally I find a rear view mirror a lot cheaper as a blue light detector unit. Also an early warning that some idiot in front may well hit the brakes regardless of circumstances - like being in the middle of roadworks
Caddyshack said:
My question is: would a Police car have anything on board that would passively scan and know that someone has one of these? I am not sure how it could. The system is TETRA
I have experience of doing "stuff" with radio, although in the distant past now.The bottom line is yes, it is technically possible to detect a device that is "receive" only.
Techniques range from fairly simple to highly complex. The first such "receiver detector" was to the best of my knowledge used in the 1940s.
Obviously technology has evolved, but methods for doing the same do exist for almost all electronic devices.
The actual question - would the police have such detection equipment - not likely.
gotoPzero said:
Caddyshack said:
My question is: would a Police car have anything on board that would passively scan and know that someone has one of these? I am not sure how it could. The system is TETRA
I have experience of doing "stuff" with radio, although in the distant past now.The bottom line is yes, it is technically possible to detect a device that is "receive" only.
Techniques range from fairly simple to highly complex. The first such "receiver detector" was to the best of my knowledge used in the 1940s.
Obviously technology has evolved, but methods for doing the same do exist for almost all electronic devices.
The actual question - would the police have such detection equipment - not likely.
Caddyshack said:
I am not talking about road angel stuff.
There is a £1200 scanner on the market now that shows all emergency vehicles, It scans for short radio signals on the airwave network.
One of the YouTubers was promoting it. It is called the target blue eye 2
My question is: would a Police car have anything on board that would passively scan and know that someone has one of these? I am not sure how it could. The system is TETRA
I don t plan on buying one, just a curious question that someone raised. I know they are not illegal but I doubt the police would like to see them being used.
Maybe a traffic cop could answer, please?
There's a secondary issue of how useful this is. For example when I have marshalled the TT* we got given a TETRA set. In other words these things are given out like candy.There is a £1200 scanner on the market now that shows all emergency vehicles, It scans for short radio signals on the airwave network.
One of the YouTubers was promoting it. It is called the target blue eye 2
My question is: would a Police car have anything on board that would passively scan and know that someone has one of these? I am not sure how it could. The system is TETRA
I don t plan on buying one, just a curious question that someone raised. I know they are not illegal but I doubt the police would like to see them being used.
Maybe a traffic cop could answer, please?
I'd imagine on any long distance radius they're pointless and setting off all the time. And any short distance radius well you're screwed anyway cause camera van can get you from 1km away.
Waze seems infinitely more useful. I mean I'm assuming here that this is for driving reasons rather than being a serious criminal of some kind.
*technically they actually make you a pollice constable during the road closure, due to some weird technicality.
I can only see a real benefit for unmarked bikes and cars. I was riding in Hampshire about 2 yrs ago on a well known biker route and there was another bike near me that seemed to be moving on a bit. I was going to tag along until I noticed he had a yellow taser on his riding gear when next to him in a 30….i didn’t know unmarked bikes existed.
Caddyshack said:
I can only see a real benefit for unmarked bikes and cars. I was riding in Hampshire about 2 yrs ago on a well known biker route and there was another bike near me that seemed to be moving on a bit. I was going to tag along until I noticed he had a yellow taser on his riding gear when next to him in a 30 .i didn t know unmarked bikes existed.
oh yes, and in London the police have unmarked everything, from Tesla's to Transits SpudLink said:
LondonCarGuy said:
I have a Target Blu Eye. It works very well.
Can I ask which model? They have more than one option on their website. Somewhatfoolish said:
What's the point when a camera van has 1000m range and an unmarked traffic car is usually obvious by its manner of driving (admittedly sometimes too late)? IE what is the use case?
Camera vans are picked up by Waze nearly always. Agree. Unmarked cars on country roads, not sure I can see how the car is being driven and therefore know it's an emergency services car. Honestly, I drive all the time with Blu Eye. It just plain works. Fire/ambulance/police, marked, unmarked....if they are in your vicinity, you know about it. Now that I drive with it, I'd never ever drive w/o it. I don't see why you would.
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