1/35th Plane kits?

[T89 Callan]

Does anyone do these? I want a Stuka JU-87 to go with all of my 1/35th tank models but I can only find 1/32nd planes in models shops.

Why is this anyway? Why make land vehicles 1/35th and planes 1/32nd? Seems crazy to me.

And before you ask my OCD will stop me putting a 1/32nd Plane with my 1/35th tanks.

[Eric Mc]

Up until recently, 1/35 had been largely ignored by aircraft kit producers but, in the past few years, there has been a small trickle of 1/35 aircraft - usualy aircraft which could fit in well with 1/35 figures or AFVs. Tamiya recently released a 1/35 Fieseler Storch, for example.

On the whole, there is little crossover between armour modellers and aircraft modellers and so the two branches of scale modelling have evolved fairly independently - with aircraft in "Imperial" scales (1/72, 1/144, 1/32 etc) and AFVs in metric scales (1/35, 1/20 etc). Of course, there are plenty of exceptions but the dichotomy between the two areas has meant that there are few vehicle models that are correctly in scale with aircraft models.

As an example, in the 1970s, Airfix released a whole range of WW2 RAF airfield models - a control tower, a rescue set and a recovery set - all in 1/76 scale (which is really a railway scale - and not really compatable with any aircraft scale.

If you go to Hannant's Website and use their search facility to look for 1/35 aircraft kits, you will get about a page and a half of what's currently available. It appears that most models are mostly of helicopters and army support aircraft - which makes sense if they are intended to fit into dioramas featuring 1/35 AFVs.

[anonymous-user]

Tamiya released a 1/48th Storch.

At around the same time another producer, whose name escapes me (Triang?) released a 1/35th Storch. Put 1/35 storch into google...

[Eric Mc]

coanda said:

Tamiya released a 1/48th Storch.

At around the same time another producer, whose name escapes me (Triang?) released a 1/35th Storch. Put 1/35 storch into google...

Quite right - although the manufacturer is called Tristar, not Triang (close).

Triang did make models decades ago - in the form of FROG. Triang, Hornby and FROG were all part of the Rovex group in the 1960s and 70s.

[SlipStream77]

There are a few here.

http://www.emodels.co.uk/plastic-kits/-c-173_240.h...

HTH

[T89 Callan]

So for a Stuka then I'm basically st out of luck.

I do like that Mil 24 in the link but £70 is alot of money.

Shame, I only like building models of things that I am interested in, the Mustang would look good with the Ardennes front Panther I have built but I have no interest in building a Mustang.

[anonymous-user]

Callan,

How about 1/48th? Tamiya have a biggish range of 1/48th Armoured Vehicles now. They are very good. I have their Porsche Turret King Tiger and late Jagdpanther. Both great kits. I see they also include a couple of Panthers. See here: http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/index.php?CATEGOR...

Eric. Yep, thats them. Am usually on my mobile so it's too much of a hassle to search t'internet.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th September 20:18

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 29th September 20:19

[dr_gn]

T89 Callan said:

So for a Stuka then I'm basically st out of luck.

I do like that Mil 24 in the link but £70 is alot of money.

Shame, I only like building models of things that I am interested in, the Mustang would look good with the Ardennes front Panther I have built but I have no interest in building a Mustang.

Scratch build one out of balsa. Get a Stuka R/C plan, photocopy it and scale it to whatever you want and get started. Use lofting for the fuselage, and a built-up wing skinned with 1/16 balsa sheet.

Cheers,

[T89 Callan]

coanda said:

Callan,

How about 1/48th? Tamiya have a biggish range of 1/48th Armoured Vehicles now. They are very good. I have their Porsche Turret King Tiger and late Jagdpanther. Both great kits. I see they also include a couple of Panthers. See here: http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/index.php?CATEGOR...

Eric. Yep, thats them. Am usually on my mobile so it's too much of a hassle to search t'internet.

Edited by coanda on Tuesday 29th September 20:18

Edited by coanda on Tuesday 29th September 20:19

I've just spent 12 intense days building 8 (yes 8) 1/35th scale tanks (2 Tigers, Panther, Panzer II, III & IV, Sherman and KV) I can't do them all again in 1/48th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They are nice kits though.....

[anonymous-user]

Then its 1/32nd Hasegawa Stuka or nothing!

[anonymous-user]

Mind you, the Storch would go well, considering the artillery spotting and very close support role it had.

[T89 Callan]

coanda said:

Then its 1/32nd Hasegawa Stuka or nothing!

Maybe if I heat up the parts I can squash them a bit to make them 1/35th?

[dr_gn]

T89 Callan said:

coanda said:

Then its 1/32nd Hasegawa Stuka or nothing!

Maybe if I heat up the parts I can squash them a bit to make them 1/35th?

The difference in wingspan between a 1:32 and 1:35 Stuka will only be about 36mm over about 400mm (and that's assuming the kits are 100% accurate, which theyr're not). So who - realistically - is going to notice that? Who's ever going to see your diorama who has seem a real Stuka and a real tank together simultaneously?

[T89 Callan]

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

coanda said:

Then its 1/32nd Hasegawa Stuka or nothing!

Maybe if I heat up the parts I can squash them a bit to make them 1/35th?

The difference in wingspan between a 1:32 and 1:35 Stuka will only be about 36mm over about 400mm (and that's assuming the kits are 100% accurate, which theyr're not). So who - realistically - is going to notice that? Who's ever going to see your diorama who has seem a real Stuka and a real tank together simultaneously?

Who? Me! And I'll know and be annoyed by it every single time I see it....

[dr_gn]

T89 Callan said:

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

coanda said:

Then its 1/32nd Hasegawa Stuka or nothing!

Maybe if I heat up the parts I can squash them a bit to make them 1/35th?

The difference in wingspan between a 1:32 and 1:35 Stuka will only be about 36mm over about 400mm (and that's assuming the kits are 100% accurate, which theyr're not). So who - realistically - is going to notice that? Who's ever going to see your diorama who has seem a real Stuka and a real tank together simultaneously?

Who? Me! And I'll know and be annoyed by it every single time I see it....

Have you measured the length, for example, of a real Tiger I and calculated the actual scale of your Tamiya model? I guarantee it ain't *exactly* 1:35...nor is the Stuka *exactly* 1:32. What I'm saying is, maybe, for your collection of tanks & the Stuka, there is a point at which the error inherent in each model makes the precise scale on the box irrelevant?

In which case you're worrying for nowt.

BTW - I hope you've replicated the *exact* camouflage pattern, shade and weathering on your tanks

[T89 Callan]

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

coanda said:

Then its 1/32nd Hasegawa Stuka or nothing!

Maybe if I heat up the parts I can squash them a bit to make them 1/35th?

The difference in wingspan between a 1:32 and 1:35 Stuka will only be about 36mm over about 400mm (and that's assuming the kits are 100% accurate, which theyr're not). So who - realistically - is going to notice that? Who's ever going to see your diorama who has seem a real Stuka and a real tank together simultaneously?

Who? Me! And I'll know and be annoyed by it every single time I see it....

Have you measured the length, for example, of a real Tiger I and calculated the actual scale of your Tamiya model? I guarantee it ain't *exactly* 1:35...nor is the Stuka *exactly* 1:32. What I'm saying is, maybe, for your collection of tanks & the Stuka, there is a point at which the error inherent in each model makes the precise scale on the box irrelevant?

In which case you're worrying for nowt.

BTW - I hope you've replicated the *exact* camouflage pattern, shade and weathering on your tanks

With regards to the tanks. Yes they are all accurately painted, camo'd, marked and weathered. I even made my own Shurzen for my Panzer IV copied from period photos. Although my Panzer III with whitewashed snow camo' is my finest finish.

Anyway it probably will be O.K but being somewhat of an OCD sufferer it could slowly drive my insane?

I'll have a look tomorrow, local Hobbycraft had a Revell 1/32nd Junkers JU 86 fairly cheap so I might start with that.

ETA: Not too shabby (I hope)

Edited by T89 Callan on Wednesday 30th September 23:01

[RichB]

Why not just suspend the Stukas over the tanks on a piece of cotton stuck to your ceileing with a drawing pin that way no one will be able to tell. Sorted.

[dr_gn]

T89 Callan said:

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

coanda said:

Then its 1/32nd Hasegawa Stuka or nothing!

Maybe if I heat up the parts I can squash them a bit to make them 1/35th?

The difference in wingspan between a 1:32 and 1:35 Stuka will only be about 36mm over about 400mm (and that's assuming the kits are 100% accurate, which theyr're not). So who - realistically - is going to notice that? Who's ever going to see your diorama who has seem a real Stuka and a real tank together simultaneously?

Who? Me! And I'll know and be annoyed by it every single time I see it....

Have you measured the length, for example, of a real Tiger I and calculated the actual scale of your Tamiya model? I guarantee it ain't *exactly* 1:35...nor is the Stuka *exactly* 1:32. What I'm saying is, maybe, for your collection of tanks & the Stuka, there is a point at which the error inherent in each model makes the precise scale on the box irrelevant?

In which case you're worrying for nowt.

BTW - I hope you've replicated the *exact* camouflage pattern, shade and weathering on your tanks

With regards to the tanks. Yes they are all accurately painted, camo'd, marked and weathered. I even made my own Shurzen for my Panzer IV copied from period photos. Although my Panzer III with whitewashed snow camo' is my finest finish.

Anyway it probably will be O.K but being somewhat of an OCD sufferer it could slowly drive my insane?

I'll have a look tomorrow, local Hobbycraft had a Revell 1/32nd Junkers JU 86 fairly cheap so I might start with that.

I still think you could build one from scratch to an exact scale if you really wanted to. People build excellent flying models of this kind of thing all the time - you wouldn't even need to worry about it being flyable!

Here's one by Guillows:

http://www.gieffeci.com/guillows/novita2008.html

Get a copy of the plan, scale it up/down, whatever, cut the balsa out and cover it, glass it, detail it with plastic card, paint it - it's done. I built on of their Stearmen and left it uncovered as an ornament - very easy to build. If I'd sheeted it with balsa or tissue it would effectively be a scale model. Scratch build the details like the cockpit interior, cannon etc...it would be something to be proud of!

If you're any good at CAD, you could even draw the bits out and for a small price get the whole kit of parts laser cut from balsa or plywood. The main structures would go together in a couple of evenings.

Just an option.

[T89 Callan]

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

dr_gn said:

T89 Callan said:

coanda said:

Then its 1/32nd Hasegawa Stuka or nothing!

Maybe if I heat up the parts I can squash them a bit to make them 1/35th?

The difference in wingspan between a 1:32 and 1:35 Stuka will only be about 36mm over about 400mm (and that's assuming the kits are 100% accurate, which theyr're not). So who - realistically - is going to notice that? Who's ever going to see your diorama who has seem a real Stuka and a real tank together simultaneously?

Who? Me! And I'll know and be annoyed by it every single time I see it....

Have you measured the length, for example, of a real Tiger I and calculated the actual scale of your Tamiya model? I guarantee it ain't *exactly* 1:35...nor is the Stuka *exactly* 1:32. What I'm saying is, maybe, for your collection of tanks & the Stuka, there is a point at which the error inherent in each model makes the precise scale on the box irrelevant?

In which case you're worrying for nowt.

BTW - I hope you've replicated the *exact* camouflage pattern, shade and weathering on your tanks

With regards to the tanks. Yes they are all accurately painted, camo'd, marked and weathered. I even made my own Shurzen for my Panzer IV copied from period photos. Although my Panzer III with whitewashed snow camo' is my finest finish.

Anyway it probably will be O.K but being somewhat of an OCD sufferer it could slowly drive my insane?

I'll have a look tomorrow, local Hobbycraft had a Revell 1/32nd Junkers JU 86 fairly cheap so I might start with that.

I still think you could build one from scratch to an exact scale if you really wanted to. People build excellent flying models of this kind of thing all the time - you wouldn't even need to worry about it being flyable!

Here's one by Guillows:

http://www.gieffeci.com/guillows/novita2008.html

Get a copy of the plan, scale it up/down, whatever, cut the balsa out and cover it, glass it, detail it with plastic card, paint it - it's done. I built on of their Stearmen and left it uncovered as an ornament - very easy to build. If I'd sheeted it with balsa or tissue it would effectively be a scale model. Scratch build the details like the cockpit interior, cannon etc...it would be something to be proud of!

If you're any good at CAD, you could even draw the bits out and for a small price get the whole kit of parts laser cut from balsa or plywood. The main structures would go together in a couple of evenings.

Just an option.

Hmmm I am awesome at CAD so now I'm tempted to do it all and get it laser cut, were would I get the plans from though?

[Eric Mc]

To be honest, have you ever seen a photo of a Stuka parked beside a tank?