Snow camo' in the snow....
Snow camo' in the snow....
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T89 Callan

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8,422 posts

215 months

Wednesday 6th January 2010
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I've just finished my snow camo'd 1/32nd Stuka to go with my similarly painted Panzer III, anyway I'm pretty pleased with them both and managed to get some picture of them in the snow today.










Kit80

4,764 posts

209 months

Wednesday 6th January 2010
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They look great thumbup

Now can you build me a full size Panzer III please biggrin

Thank you

xxxxxx

Edited by Kit80 on Wednesday 6th January 20:31

Kaelic

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223 months

Wednesday 6th January 2010
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That Stuka looks brilliant imo

looks huge too biggrin


T89 Callan

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215 months

Wednesday 6th January 2010
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Kaelic said:
That Stuka looks brilliant imo

looks huge too biggrin
Cheers

Wing span on the Stuka is about 48cm (19"), it's 1/32nd wereas the Tank is 1/35th so a slightly bigger scale......... And no I couldn't get a 1/35th plane, although I did try.

Eric Mc

124,708 posts

287 months

Wednesday 6th January 2010
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Nice Ju87. You need to put some Swastikas on the tailfin to make it look accurate though.

Many model manufacturers do not supply Swastikas on their decal sheets so you have to find some after market source. They are easy to find though as there are quite a few decal manufacturers who produce Swastika sheets.

dr_gn

16,717 posts

206 months

Wednesday 6th January 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Nice Ju87. You need to put some Swastikas on the tailfin to make it look accurate though.

Many model manufacturers do not supply Swastikas on their decal sheets so you have to find some after market source. They are easy to find though as there are quite a few decal manufacturers who produce Swastika sheets.
On the original picture, they were pretty much totally obscured - along with the fuselage insignia/codes and - presumably - the upper surface markings too? Personally I think it looks better as it is with some insignia showing though.

T89 Callan

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Thursday 7th January 2010
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dr_gn said:
Eric Mc said:
Nice Ju87. You need to put some Swastikas on the tailfin to make it look accurate though.

Many model manufacturers do not supply Swastikas on their decal sheets so you have to find some after market source. They are easy to find though as there are quite a few decal manufacturers who produce Swastika sheets.
On the original picture, they were pretty much totally obscured - along with the fuselage insignia/codes and - presumably - the upper surface markings too? Personally I think it looks better as it is with some insignia showing though.
I painted it imagining if I had to paint a plane..... i.e it starts well with a pattern and then by the end the (the tailfin) I get bored and just start slapping it everywhere.

I also tried to get an effect of the paint running on the front of the wings as if it had been put in thickly and taken off before drying properly.

I wanted to do a Swastika but I think I'll leave it now, I like to finish something and then leave it alone.

Airfix 1/35th Challenger 2 next, found it in the loft so it might be quite old. (it predates Iraq/Afganistan as it appears to be the only Challenger 2 in green and black not desert colours).

Eric Mc

124,708 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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dr_gn said:
Eric Mc said:
Nice Ju87. You need to put some Swastikas on the tailfin to make it look accurate though.

Many model manufacturers do not supply Swastikas on their decal sheets so you have to find some after market source. They are easy to find though as there are quite a few decal manufacturers who produce Swastika sheets.
On the original picture, they were pretty much totally obscured - along with the fuselage insignia/codes and - presumably - the upper surface markings too? Personally I think it looks better as it is with some insignia showing though.
Some day you might agree with one of my opinions smile

The main reason I mentioned the lack of Swasttikas was not to have a go at the model, but to make the modeller aware that the lack of Swastikas on the decal sheet did not mean that the real aircraft didn't have them but that they are generally not included in many kits these days. I also wanted to let him know that sheets of Swastika decals are available. As he is a relative newcomer to building Luftwaffe models, he may not have been aware of this.

Sorry if I was teaching someone to suck eggs or implying that their model was somehow defficient. That was not my intention.


Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 7th January 09:26

RichB

55,202 posts

306 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Many model manufacturers do not supply Swastikas on their decal sheets.
Don't tell me this is a for PC reasons?

Eric Mc

124,708 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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RichB said:
Eric Mc said:
Many model manufacturers do not supply Swastikas on their decal sheets.
Don't tell me this is a for PC reasons?
It is - and for legal reasons, in some countries (e.g Israel. Germany).

It's not really a problem as separate sheets of Swastikas can be purchased easilly from model and decal suppliers.

dr_gn

16,717 posts

206 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Eric Mc said:
dr_gn said:
Eric Mc said:
Nice Ju87. You need to put some Swastikas on the tailfin to make it look accurate though.

Many model manufacturers do not supply Swastikas on their decal sheets so you have to find some after market source. They are easy to find though as there are quite a few decal manufacturers who produce Swastika sheets.
On the original picture, they were pretty much totally obscured - along with the fuselage insignia/codes and - presumably - the upper surface markings too? Personally I think it looks better as it is with some insignia showing though.
Some day you might agree with one of my opinions smile

The main reason I mentioned the lack of Swasttikas was not to have a go at the model, but to make the modeller aware that the lack of Swastikas on the decal sheet did not mean that the real aircraft didn't have them but that they are generally not included in many kits these days. I also wanted to let him know that sheets of Swastika decals are available. As he is a relative newcomer to building Luftwaffe models, he may not have been aware of this.

Sorry if I was teaching someone to suck eggs or implying that their model was somehow defficient. That was not my intention.


Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 7th January 09:26
Wasn't the intention to disagree or anything like that - purely an observation. I wondered if the swastikas had been deliberately left off or well obscured as per the picture he said he was copying, that's all. I know you weren't having a go at the model, and nor was I. You only have to look at my Spitfire to realise that absolute accuracy when modelling isn't necessarily one of my strong points. so long as a model looks good, it's fine by me.

Eric Mc

124,708 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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And me smile

Merely getting one finished is usually an achievement for me.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 7th January 09:56

dr_gn

16,717 posts

206 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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Eric Mc said:
And me smile

Merely getting one finished is usually an achievement for me.

Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 7th January 09:56
About time you posted some pictures of your Blackburn Skua I reckon.

I started on my Avro RJ / 146 whatever it is yesterday. Only took about 2 hours to get to the painting stage, and even then it's all white!

Interesting comparison with my A380: the '146 fuselage seems to be roughly the same diameter as a single A380 engine casing...

dr_gn

16,717 posts

206 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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BTW, On th Stuka, the canopy framing seems particularly well done to me. Some very fine lining there, was it masked or freehand I wonder?

Eric Mc

124,708 posts

287 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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My Skua is almost finished. It has been a real struggle and I'm not really all that happy with the end result. I still have a few bits and bobs to do to finish it completely.

Unfortunately, modelling has to be put on the back burner for the months of December and January - due to work pressure.

It will probably be the end of the month at the earliest before I have it ready for showing off.

T89 Callan

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215 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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dr_gn said:
BTW, On th Stuka, the canopy framing seems particularly well done to me. Some very fine lining there, was it masked or freehand I wonder?
Free hand, to be honest it isn't that good. Up close it's abit rough but I'm the only one who'll ever see it like that anyway.

It's done anyway now, I might do a Hasagawa 1/32nd Stuka G-2 in a few months and put men in it so it can be hung from the roof.

CobolMan

1,429 posts

229 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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dr_gn said:
I started on my Avro RJ / 146 whatever it is yesterday.
It has the nickname 'cockroach' with many pilots....

dr_gn

16,717 posts

206 months

Thursday 7th January 2010
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CobolMan said:
dr_gn said:
I started on my Avro RJ / 146 whatever it is yesterday.
It has the nickname 'cockroach' with many pilots....
go on...why?

Eric Mc

124,708 posts

287 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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I really hated when BAe decided to rebrand the 146 as the Avro RJ. The aircraft was essentialy a De Havilland project in that it originated as the Hawker Siddeley HS146 back in 1973 and was designed at the old De Havilland site at Hatfield. Even the number "146" was part of the old De Havilland numbering sequence.

With the imminent demise of Hatfield, production was moved to Woodford (now also slated for closure) BAe in their wisdom decide that they would resurrect the old Avro name (as Woodford had been the Avro factory site). And then they lost interset in all their civillian projects (including the successful ones like the 125 biz jet) and either sold the production lines or closed them down. The 146/RJ was almost sold to the Koreans but the deal fell through and production ceased.

The 146 was the last airliner assembled in the UK in its entirety (even though some bits - the wings and engines - were actually American).

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 8th January 08:51

dr_gn

16,717 posts

206 months

Friday 8th January 2010
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Following my usual misplaced posting habit, here is said RJ146 filled and primed. Of course I tried a short cut by using a Halfords white rattle can I had (on the pods), but this didn't turn out at all well. It'll be out with the newly cleaned airbrush again soon I feel.