GB : Academy Tempest : Cerberus90
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Started tonight
I also actually had the correct colour for the interior for once,
, so its painted how it should be according to the instructions.


I was quite pleased with how the dials came out, forgot to take a picture while it was out the plane.

At this point, I wasn't very impressed with the fit of the two body halves when the seat was fitted.

Once the wings went on, the body was held together a bit better, and has reduced the gap a bit.

I also actually had the correct colour for the interior for once,
, so its painted how it should be according to the instructions.

I was quite pleased with how the dials came out, forgot to take a picture while it was out the plane.

At this point, I wasn't very impressed with the fit of the two body halves when the seat was fitted.

Once the wings went on, the body was held together a bit better, and has reduced the gap a bit.

I don't use filler on my models.
I don't have the patience to get the fit perfect, and usually, if I do try, I'll end up making it worse,
It actually didn't turn out too bad, I think if I'd got the body to fit together better before putting the wings on, I may have been left with a gap between wings and body.
I don't have the patience to get the fit perfect, and usually, if I do try, I'll end up making it worse,

It actually didn't turn out too bad, I think if I'd got the body to fit together better before putting the wings on, I may have been left with a gap between wings and body.
Done a bit more tonight.
Just painting bits.
Tried my airbrush on the underside, which may have been a mistake.
The Tamiya paint seems far too thin to me, and when applied with the airbrush it just seems to evaporate as it dries. And when applied with a brush, does the same thing. Its almost like painting water onto it.
Not happy with the finish I've got at the moment, hopefully another coat will help. Also, the XF-54 for the underside seems a bit dark once applied, hopefully again, another coat will help.

Just painting bits.
Tried my airbrush on the underside, which may have been a mistake.
The Tamiya paint seems far too thin to me, and when applied with the airbrush it just seems to evaporate as it dries. And when applied with a brush, does the same thing. Its almost like painting water onto it.
Not happy with the finish I've got at the moment, hopefully another coat will help. Also, the XF-54 for the underside seems a bit dark once applied, hopefully again, another coat will help.

You seem to be having a strange build. I am doing the Academy one too.
That gap under the rear fuselage shouldnt be there. the only bit of the fuselage that needs a bit of pressure while it dries is under the radiator.
Also, Tamiya paints are not thin. In fact, they always have to be thinned to airbrush properly (ideally with a proper thinner with retarder or flow aid, never water). Are you sure you shook and mixed the paint properly and didnt end up trying to spray the clear bit that settles at the top of the bottle?
That gap under the rear fuselage shouldnt be there. the only bit of the fuselage that needs a bit of pressure while it dries is under the radiator.
Also, Tamiya paints are not thin. In fact, they always have to be thinned to airbrush properly (ideally with a proper thinner with retarder or flow aid, never water). Are you sure you shook and mixed the paint properly and didnt end up trying to spray the clear bit that settles at the top of the bottle?
Yeah it was shook.
I believe part of my problem is due to using water, rather than Tamiya thinner. But, what's the point in water based paints when you have to buy special thinners.
Also, Tamiya paints are thin compared to the Humbrol paints I usually use, which are much better at going on.
Even when I tried the humbrol stuff through the air brush, it went on better.
My number one problem with the airbrush though, is that I've only just got it, never used it before,
.
I think I'll be sticking to my brushes, and hoping that the camo comes out like it did on my Halifax, which I used Tamiya paints on.
I believe part of my problem is due to using water, rather than Tamiya thinner. But, what's the point in water based paints when you have to buy special thinners.

Also, Tamiya paints are thin compared to the Humbrol paints I usually use, which are much better at going on.
Even when I tried the humbrol stuff through the air brush, it went on better.
My number one problem with the airbrush though, is that I've only just got it, never used it before,
.I think I'll be sticking to my brushes, and hoping that the camo comes out like it did on my Halifax, which I used Tamiya paints on.
I never use water as a thinner. My current thinner of choice is Xrtracrylic thinner - which seems to work OK on Tamiya paints as well as the Xtracrylic paint range.
The paint should be the consistency of skimmed milk for effective spraying. I don't measure my paint/thinner ratio precisely. I just add thinner until the consistency and density looks right.
The paint should be the consistency of skimmed milk for effective spraying. I don't measure my paint/thinner ratio precisely. I just add thinner until the consistency and density looks right.
Cerberus90 said:
I don't use filler on my models.
I don't have the patience to get the fit perfect, and usually, if I do try, I'll end up making it worse,
It actually didn't turn out too bad, I think if I'd got the body to fit together better before putting the wings on, I may have been left with a gap between wings and body.
Try Milliput. It's water based epoxy. Mix it together well, then add some spit until it's a paste, and press it into the gaps with a small scraper, then with a wet finger or lint free cloth, wipe all the excess filler away until the gap is smooth. Leave 24 hours. Job done. No (or very little) sanding.I don't have the patience to get the fit perfect, and usually, if I do try, I'll end up making it worse,

It actually didn't turn out too bad, I think if I'd got the body to fit together better before putting the wings on, I may have been left with a gap between wings and body.
Back on it again, 
Made a little bit of progress just now.
Underside is pretty much painted, just got the bit on the supercharger cowling to finish.
Not bad finish for brushed on.
You can just about see one of the other things that's been distracting me too in the background of the first picture,



Made a little bit of progress just now.
Underside is pretty much painted, just got the bit on the supercharger cowling to finish.
Not bad finish for brushed on.
You can just about see one of the other things that's been distracting me too in the background of the first picture,



Thanks. I'm hoping its going to turn out to be one of my better models.
Partly due to the kit, partly due to the paint, and partly due to I'm being a bit more careful, and I'm not putting bits like exhausts or wheels on until I've done the camo.
Nowhere near as good as yours or some others on here,
Partly due to the kit, partly due to the paint, and partly due to I'm being a bit more careful, and I'm not putting bits like exhausts or wheels on until I've done the camo.
Nowhere near as good as yours or some others on here,

Cerberus90 said:
Thanks. I'm hoping its going to turn out to be one of my better models.
Partly due to the kit, partly due to the paint, and partly due to I'm being a bit more careful, and I'm not putting bits like exhausts or wheels on until I've done the camo.
Nowhere near as good as yours or some others on here,
The paint finish looks good which is half the battle with brush painted models - I'm guessing you mean you've not painted the upper surface grey yet?Partly due to the kit, partly due to the paint, and partly due to I'm being a bit more careful, and I'm not putting bits like exhausts or wheels on until I've done the camo.
Nowhere near as good as yours or some others on here,

I'd seriously consider masking the canopy with Tamiya tape and overspraying the whole lot with Humbrol matt spray when it's done (decals applied etc).
dr_gn said:
The paint finish looks good which is half the battle with brush painted models - I'm guessing you mean you've not painted the upper surface grey yet?
I'd seriously consider masking the canopy with Tamiya tape and overspraying the whole lot with Humbrol matt spray when it's done (decals applied etc).
yeah, no upper grey yet.I'd seriously consider masking the canopy with Tamiya tape and overspraying the whole lot with Humbrol matt spray when it's done (decals applied etc).
Paint actually looks better in the picture than in real life,

The Tamiya stuff does hide brush marks better than the humbrol paints, due to it being thinner I suppose.
Well that's mine pretty much ruined............again.
Something always seems to break whenever I make a model.
Bloody bit at the top of the wheel strut, that goes into the wheel well has broken.
Stupid things won't fit into the holes, and a tiny bit too much pressure has broken it. Put some glue onto it in the hope it'll reattach and strengthen it up again. It hadn't actually come off, but was all wobbly and loose, then put the glue on and it seemed to come even looser.
So lots of scratching needs to be done in the hole in the wheel well so that the strut fits easily without needing any pressure.
Something always seems to break whenever I make a model.
Bloody bit at the top of the wheel strut, that goes into the wheel well has broken.
Stupid things won't fit into the holes, and a tiny bit too much pressure has broken it. Put some glue onto it in the hope it'll reattach and strengthen it up again. It hadn't actually come off, but was all wobbly and loose, then put the glue on and it seemed to come even looser.
So lots of scratching needs to be done in the hole in the wheel well so that the strut fits easily without needing any pressure.
Cerberus90 said:
Well that's mine pretty much ruined............again.
Something always seems to break whenever I make a model.
Bloody bit at the top of the wheel strut, that goes into the wheel well has broken.
Stupid things won't fit into the holes, and a tiny bit too much pressure has broken it. Put some glue onto it in the hope it'll reattach and strengthen it up again. It hadn't actually come off, but was all wobbly and loose, then put the glue on and it seemed to come even looser.
So lots of scratching needs to be done in the hole in the wheel well so that the strut fits easily without needing any pressure.
not ruined CerbSomething always seems to break whenever I make a model.
Bloody bit at the top of the wheel strut, that goes into the wheel well has broken.
Stupid things won't fit into the holes, and a tiny bit too much pressure has broken it. Put some glue onto it in the hope it'll reattach and strengthen it up again. It hadn't actually come off, but was all wobbly and loose, then put the glue on and it seemed to come even looser.
So lots of scratching needs to be done in the hole in the wheel well so that the strut fits easily without needing any pressure.
another opportunity to extend your techniques
You may find a mix of PVA and Stuporglue will stuffen the broken bit if you leave the weight off it for a while
I mix the two roughly 50:50 on a piece of plastic by stirring then get it straight where you need it to do its job
I have a few fine drills that I can use to clear holes before attempting to insert items into them
(Then I ALWAYS forget at the last minute, it isn't JUST you)
hope it works out for you
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