any ideas to scratch build this ?

[steveo3002]

ive got a 1.15 scale delorean im still working on, the rear bumper is missing this detail

any ideas how i could add this detail

[perdu]

warm "phot- etch" then press it into the plastic gently

or gently scrape away everything that isn't DELOREAN and background cut-out

n.b requires very very exacting scraping skills and fine tools

or make the background and each individual letter from brass and apply when hot to the surface


no

it will not be an easy fix, sorry. The logo needs to be moulded in at the beginning, how are you making the bumper sections?

[dr_gn]

Get some plastic the same depth as you need the embossing to be (or use the existing bumper if it's the right thickness).

Print out the logo and stick it onto the plastic with Pritt Stick.

Drill/cut/file out the letters.

Remove paper printout.

Stick a length of plastic over the back of the cut out lettering.

Inset it into the model bumper (if necessary).

Job done.

[steveo3002]

perdu said:

it will not be an easy fix, sorry. The logo needs to be moulded in at the beginning, how are you making the bumper sections?

bumper is one big lump , probably 3mm thick and flat where the logo should be

would be no problem cutting out a square and dropping in a new section that contains the logo

was thinking of pricing up a 3d print..any ideas if it will be silly money..or worst case could anyone make a nice decal?

[perdu]

It was dead easy to find a copy of that Logo on t'intanet

I've saved one and played with the image, basically doi what doc says

cut out the hole in the bumper cut two sheets of plasticard to suit the hole, one to go at the back the other to have the logo added to it then cut out the letter spaces

Smooth off and glue together, add the little signature bits of the "holes" that are missing

Glue the new made logo into the bumper and gently brush liquid poly over the edges to soften them off a little

Looks about an evening's modelling knife work -ish

(no responsibility for induced madness will be accepted)

your most important thing to remember

get the sizes right when you print off the cut out logo then all else will be down to how well you "knife" plastic

Rough (very ) drawing here for how I'd do it



I hope you didnt think I was going to draw ALL those daft letters

[perdu]

Thinking about this

How long and high is the logo on the car?

I think I'd go back to my idea of carving it in...

[steveo3002]

its no much differant to "delorean" written on a normal computer screen

maybe some of you can carve at that size but i think its beyond me

[Red Firecracker]

I think I'd be pursuing your previous request of etching it into a long strip that you can then wrap around the existing bumper and blend in. Maybe even try it yourself with a Maplins etch kit?

[perdu]

steveo3002 said:

its no much differant to "delorean" written on a normal computer screen

maybe some of you can carve at that size but i think its beyond me

I thiink you are right

Looking at the thing "in the flesh" the cut away in the bumper is only about a 1/4" deep then again for the lettering so I suggest that you need to cut out the recess somehow (doc's idea is about right there, I'm sure) then make a decal of the outer lettering portion (leave the actual letters blank) in your body colour on clear decal sheet

If the model is 1:15 a 1/4" in scale is 0.016666666r" thick

I think you could make a decal look about fifteen thou thick if there were two, one atop the other.

You'd see the outlines that you printed and also see through to the background recess too

I took a BLURRY AS HELL pic of my estimated size of image against my thumb, looking at it I dont think you'd need too much depth on the model


I dont know why (except it's raining and I'm not spraying the Midget's spare boot lid in this) but I am going to mess about with this today, see if the idea works

Metally grey finish is it?

[steveo3002]

i make the box that the script is sunk into 30x3mm

the bumper should be matte/semi black ...i could easily make the sunken box if you can make a decal ?

not sure what would contrast enough , maybe a dark grey ??

[perdu]

Matt black is a colour I usually use a very very dark grey for on a model (I used Tamiya's German Grey for the 'black' areas on my Wessex models) Maybe you need a decal (in a recess) on a painted black background for the lettering and a fine grey line around to 'show' an outline and the dark grey as body colour. The black recess then would be left as uncoloured decal sheet... simples

Are you sure of the sizes? The picture I nicked from t'intynet is 25mm long and 3.25mm high and has a visual appearance like the recessed letters on your pictures.

Your proportions need checking before you commit to print.

I'd still get a hankering to engrave it though
warm etch pushed into the bumper to deepset engrave it

[steveo3002]

well im going on the basis the tail lamp is 30mm long and the sunken panel seems to be the same length ?

[perdu]

This is the logo I downloaded and the image size looks out of proportion for 33x3, more like x4.5 or so


On my screen the image is 127.5mm by 19mm

It looks blotchy 'cos I am changing pixels round to suit the colours of it (was black and grey with highlighted corners)


If I was making it I'd use that image to produce my decal (transfer is a much nicer word IMO)

I may have time to look at a resize later this evening, see what MSWord makes of it, Gimp too

[Red Firecracker]

Here's a link to a vector of the logo;

http://www.seeklogo.com/delorean-logo-39702.html

[perdu]

Thanks for that RF

I have messed about with the image (even on the vector image there was unwanted highlighting... derrr!)

I have this one now, 33mm x 4.8mm

How does this look? Imagine it deep inside the recess you make on the bumper. Dark grey image against darker grey painted recess. Should look the business.

And it would be easy to change the grey for a lighter one if you needed to. Probably a similar effect to making a photo-etch inset for less hassle.

[Red Firecracker]

Very strange, Perdu, even when quickly scaling the vector right up, I'm still seeing a pure image. I don;t think Word handles vectors very well, converting them to something it is more comfortable with.

I must admit, I don't think a decal is going to be the best way of achieving the desired result, especially after painting. It's at such as size that punching it out of thin plasticard is very much a possibility and then layering it. It's such a feature of the model that I personally think that using a decal is going to look just like that, a decal. I see the main issue being that you still have a carrier film on every decal, so you are going to nullify the effect of the raised print each time you put another on top.

[steveo3002]

i will measure up again later 4.8 sounds a bit big

while not accurate , id be happy with letters in a sunken box , not that fussed about the raised effect

thanks for the efforts

[perdu]

RF I'm not using Word to look at it and have actually printed that test shot in Photoshop and have looked at it in Inkscape too, not that I have much ability with Inkscape yet, I keep putting off the hard bits. Penalty of too much free time I suppose.

Quite agree that the backing will be obvious but Im not sure how well you'd have to carve to make the letters usable in 1:15 scale,this way you'd use the backing film to add depth

Anyway it's one thing I'm going to experiment with

I have been toying with

Black lettering clear film for a base layer
medium grey outlines (as picture) as interim with clear letters
darker grey outlines with clear letters as top layer

all in the recess

The black will be the depth, the light grey may be visible under the dark grey to give an illusion of curved edges. The darker grey will be the bit we see when we look at the bumper.

I supppose it depends on what Steve wants to achieve with the car.

[72twink]

If you're happy cutting out the section why not just let in a P/E logo that has been partially etched from thick sheet, make your artwork do about 10 sets and offer them to others for a nominal cost to recoup some set up fees as you can't be the only one who's wanted the same thing.

Edited by 72twink on Thursday 26th April 14:46

[72twink]

If you're happy cutting out the section why not just let in a P/E logo that has been partially etched from thick sheet, make your artwork do about 10 sets and offer them to others for a nominal cost to recoup some set up fees as you can't be the only one who's wanted the same thing.

Edited by 72twink on Thursday 26th April 14:48