Absolutely stellar TSR2 build on BM
Absolutely stellar TSR2 build on BM
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tdm34

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7,479 posts

234 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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davepoth

29,395 posts

223 months

Thursday 1st November 2012
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That's a bit mental. I see he's from the Ukraine - if he managed that without even seeing the original it's an order of magnitude more impressive.

Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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It's the Airfix 1/48 kit by the way.

It's nicely done but I think the pre-shading is a tad overdone (as is often the case these days).

dr_gn

16,769 posts

208 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Stonking build is that.

BTW the pre-shading is spot-on and very subtle; it's actually the dark wash that slightly over-emphisises the panel lines, but it doesn't detract from the overall effect IMO.

Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Not to me it doesn't. He's done great work in the details - but went over the top in the shading.

72twink

963 posts

266 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Really? I see a lot of modulation (Like GN did wit his metallics on the F-84) but very little pre shade, it looks great to me!

Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Well - the panel tones don't look like variations I've seen on any TSR2s - either the only one that flew or the two preserved examples.

The first one did get a bit grubby - but not the way depicted in the model.

Skii

1,891 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Stunning, really beautiful build.

I built the 1/72 version a good few years ago - such a pretty aeroplane.





Edited by Skii on Friday 2nd November 14:56

Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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That's a lot better to my eyes - especially considering that the 1/72 kit isn't the easiest in the world to build.

Can anyone confirm if the windscreen and forward canopy of the TSR2 recived the gold shading - or was it applied to only the hinged canopy sections?

IroningMan

10,598 posts

270 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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I think I'm with Eric on this - the pre-shade makes it look like it's been standing outside for a couple of decades.

I couldn't dream of attaining the skills the build demonstrates, but wouldn't you thin the edges of the u/c doors down if you were going to all that effort? Or are they that thick in reality?

Skii

1,891 posts

215 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Eric Mc said:
That's a lot better to my eyes - especially considering that the 1/72 kit isn't the easiest in the world to build.

Can anyone confirm if the windscreen and forward canopy of the TSR2 recived the gold shading - or was it applied to only the hinged canopy sections?
Thanks Eric

As far as I know it was only the hinged sections, the windscreen was clear or very slightly shaded.

LukeSi

5,780 posts

185 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Impressive.

Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Skii said:
Eric Mc said:
That's a lot better to my eyes - especially considering that the 1/72 kit isn't the easiest in the world to build.

Can anyone confirm if the windscreen and forward canopy of the TSR2 recived the gold shading - or was it applied to only the hinged canopy sections?
Thanks Eric

As far as I know it was only the hinged sections, the windscreen was clear or very slightly shaded.
That's what I've always thought too - although I've seen a few made up models with the forward canopy and windscren tinted too. If and when I ever get round to building mine, it'll be gold on the hinged sections only for me.

dr_gn

16,769 posts

208 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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IroningMan said:
I think I'm with Eric on this - the pre-shade makes it look like it's been standing outside for a couple of decades.
...but what's the issue with that? Duxfords example was outside for around 30 - 40 years in total before restoration I guess. I certainly remember seeing it outside in the early 1980's. In that context, the model in question isn't far off reality at all:



It would all be there in reality - panel line definition and staining, different panel shades etc. It's just a matter of observation and execution. I still think it's absolutely fine as it is with maybe a touch less panel line shade. We are however talking about techniques which are very difficult to perfect.


Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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I don't expect he intended it to look like Duxford's example ca 1980. Does it even carry the serial of the Duxford one?

dr_gn

16,769 posts

208 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Eric Mc said:
I don't expect he intended it to look like Duxford's example ca 1980. Does it even carry the serial of the Duxford one?
Why? The model is of Duxford's example (XR222), and since the majority of it's life has been spent outside, what's wrong with portraying it as weathered?

Eric Mc

124,906 posts

289 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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That's why I asked. It still doesn't look much like the Duxford example to me. I saw it for the first time back in 1978 when it was still outside and it certainly didn't look like his rendition.


Big Fat Fatty

3,313 posts

180 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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davepoth said:
That's a bit mental. I see he's from the Ukraine - if he managed that without even seeing the original it's an order of magnitude more impressive.
I think dave said it perfectly, the bloke probably hasn't even seen this country let alone an airfield in Duxford.

Pretty looking plane and an exceptional model for the scale.

dr_gn

16,769 posts

208 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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Eric Mc said:
That's why I asked. It still doesn't look much like the Duxford example to me. I saw it for the first time back in 1978 when it was still outside and it certainly didn't look like his rendition.

That's a pretty over-exposed photo with most detail burned out. Even with the benefit of the doubt, maybe they cleaned it, or painted it - which is fine, but if you simply reverse the amount of weathering back by a few years from the photo I posted previously:



...it's pretty obvious that at some point you'll get something similar the amount of weathering he's applied. I think you'd agree that his model is not half as weathered as it appears in the photo above, therefore, assuming it's modelled in that context, it can't possibly be overdone?

perdu

4,885 posts

223 months

Friday 2nd November 2012
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I think he has got as close to "right" as I've seen, so far Eric. I would be proud of that if it were mine.

You have to admit he hasn't modelled a technical drawing of TSR2 like so many models I have ranted and railed at over on BM several times.

I quite like the differentiation of the panels, which just isn't easy on an all white kite. Maybe using a lighter grey for the lining... but no, for me he has it. wink

And Skii, yours is damned brilliant too thumbup