Model Lancaster Bomber
Discussion
I'm intrigued as to why anybody would want to make this model aircraft that's advertised on the TV. The advert says that it would take 124 issues of the magazine at £4-99 plus the initial first issue at 50p to complete this. That's almost 2 1/2 years and a cost of £619-26. Some price for a model aircraft that isn't even radio controlled.
beats me why anyone would actually make that model (even if only for the bloomin' TV advert) and paint it in some horrible household green and brown paint
makes me sick just to look at the damned thing
I doubt if many or even any have actually finished one of these magazine projects yet
Tyrannosaurrus-Diplodocus-Fire-Engine-Model-T-Doll's-House-Rex or whatever
they all vanish from my local papershop after three or four issues
makes me sick just to look at the damned thing
I doubt if many or even any have actually finished one of these magazine projects yet
Tyrannosaurrus-Diplodocus-Fire-Engine-Model-T-Doll's-House-Rex or whatever
they all vanish from my local papershop after three or four issues
Revell updated their Lancaster kit about a year ago, yopu' be much better off with one of these. Only costs about £15.99 and is a work of art. No Dam Buster version yet but I'm sure there must be one in the pipeline, perhaps they're waiting for the film to come out. In the meantime you could use the dambustery bits from the existing kit - all you'd need is the decals, bomb bay, bomb and cradle, fill in the upper turret and you're done.
Remember, this is the same company that is running the Flying Scotsman partwork that has been a horror story of poorly designed parts, poorly written instructions and in the case of Scotsman, the admittance that it really isn't going to be a working model as they've changed so many parts for unsuitable materials.
It has been a real shame for the company that make the model that it is based on, DJH, as they make fantastic high quality kits, bit the Hachette bean counters have reduced the it down to toy level with their substitution of materials.
I cannot see how this will be any less of a debacle than the Scotsman, Titanic or Bismark partworks.
It has been a real shame for the company that make the model that it is based on, DJH, as they make fantastic high quality kits, bit the Hachette bean counters have reduced the it down to toy level with their substitution of materials.
I cannot see how this will be any less of a debacle than the Scotsman, Titanic or Bismark partworks.
Red Firecracker said:
I cannot see how this will be any less of a debacle than the Scotsman, Titanic or Bismark partworks.
I do not know about the Flying Scotsman, but the other two have been very successful world wide, with most forums (especially for Bismarck), being very positive!I can also tell you that if Bismarck came out as a kit, it would cost at the very least five times as much as the part work – no kit comes even close to the detail on that one, and it is more accurate than the Finescale Model version that sells for £25,000 each!
Because of the part works, more people have started model making, which is a good thing. There are some crap part works out there, but there are some very good ones too – the Lancaster doesn’t look too shabby, and you’re not going to get a plastic model showing the frames. (Although not my cup of tea…) Not sure where you’d put it when complete though, it looks to be a very large scale!
Evangelion said:
Revell updated their Lancaster kit about a year ago, yopu' be much better off with one of these. Only costs about £15.99 and is a work of art. No Dam Buster version yet but I'm sure there must be one in the pipeline, perhaps they're waiting for the film to come out. In the meantime you could use the dambustery bits from the existing kit - all you'd need is the decals, bomb bay, bomb and cradle, fill in the upper turret and you're done.
There's a quick review of a pre-production Dambusters Lanc in this month's SAMI - I'm pretty sure it's by Revell. There's also an advert in it for an Airfix one which also includes a section of dam and reservoir.chris watton said:
Red Firecracker said:
I cannot see how this will be any less of a debacle than the Scotsman, Titanic or Bismark partworks.
I do not know about the Flying Scotsman, but the other two have been very successful world wide, with most forums (especially for Bismarck), being very positive!I can also tell you that if Bismarck came out as a kit, it would cost at the very least five times as much as the part work – no kit comes even close to the detail on that one, and it is more accurate than the Finescale Model version that sells for £25,000 each!
Because of the part works, more people have started model making, which is a good thing. There are some crap part works out there, but there are some very good ones too – the Lancaster doesn’t look too shabby, and you’re not going to get a plastic model showing the frames. (Although not my cup of tea…) Not sure where you’d put it when complete though, it looks to be a very large scale!
I agree, these are a good way of bringing people into the hobby, but that only succeeds if there is a certian amount of hand holding for people new to the hobby and that also means the kit and instructions have to be nearly beyond reproach. They (Hachete) seem to pick a subject or donor model that is at the experienced modeller end of the market to turn into a partwork and then go about making it suitable for the partwork market by reducing the quality of parts etc. This can only lead to frustration from new builders who suddenly find it beyond their limited skill set. The adverts don't exactly shy away from the impression that anybody can do this nice and easily.
All IMHO of course.
They also need to look at reducing the length of time it takes to collect all the parts. I mean two years is ridiculous, six months would be better and even then many would run out of patience.
Let's face it, five minutes is a long attention span for some people these days which is why model builders are a dying breed in the first place. My local club is down to about a dozen members now, and the onset of old age, retirements etc, combined with the almost complete lack of young people taking up the hobby, will probably finish us completely in a few years.
Let's face it, five minutes is a long attention span for some people these days which is why model builders are a dying breed in the first place. My local club is down to about a dozen members now, and the onset of old age, retirements etc, combined with the almost complete lack of young people taking up the hobby, will probably finish us completely in a few years.
CooperD said:
I'm intrigued as to why anybody would want to make this model aircraft that's advertised on the TV. The advert says that it would take 124 issues of the magazine at £4-99 plus the initial first issue at 50p to complete this. That's almost 2 1/2 years and a cost of £619-26. Some price for a model aircraft that isn't even radio controlled.
You can get a similar thing by making a Guillows (or similar) free-flight model, but using the 'scale props' they supply rather than the free-flight ones. I wanted to build an 'open structure' aircraft, so I got a Guillows Stearman off Ebay:
Built with cyano and spray varnished. Looks great!
They also do a few bombers, which although don't appear to be as detailled as the Lancaster in question, only cost about £70, and can be finished in a few weeks of evenings:
BTW, what is the point of building a detailled open structure, and then covering it up as in the Lancaster advert? Crazy.
chris watton said:
Red Firecracker said:
I cannot see how this will be any less of a debacle than the Scotsman, Titanic or Bismark partworks.
I do not know about the Flying Scotsman, but the other two have been very successful world wide, with most forums (especially for Bismarck), being very positive!I can also tell you that if Bismarck came out as a kit, it would cost at the very least five times as much as the part work – no kit comes even close to the detail on that one, and it is more accurate than the Finescale Model version that sells for £25,000 each!
Because of the part works, more people have started model making, which is a good thing. There are some crap part works out there, but there are some very good ones too – the Lancaster doesn’t look too shabby, and you’re not going to get a plastic model showing the frames. (Although not my cup of tea…) Not sure where you’d put it when complete though, it looks to be a very large scale!
As for the Bismarck, the UK forum for this item looks to be a blatant front for the publisher, its comment appears biased to both the product and company!
When are Part-work Co's going to learn that people are getting fed up of being sold a promise that rarely live's up to the hype, the net is loaded with complaint about such companies and their product. To me it would appear they have not yet realised that with the advent of the WWW that news and thoughts about their product travels fast, far and wide, and is accessible by all.
Whilst I agree that Part-works have introduced a lot of people to modelling, I think that few repeat buy after having had the 'part-work' experience, and in fact that a good number may even have even been off modelling or the purchase of another part-work series.
It's simply bad business selling product that does not live up to it's advertised hype, and even worse to target the beginner with item's that are clearly beyond the level of the novice!
As for size, where honestly would anyone comfortably put on display a 49" long Bismarck or 38" span Lancaster model, what's next a 60" long HMS Hood?
Edited by JTD on Tuesday 1st September 11:43
Edited by JTD on Tuesday 1st September 11:44
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