Puretech 1.2 engine
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To my knowledge it's still a wet belt, but if they have indeed swapped to a chain I wouldn't think that it's a good thing.
Most new chain driven engines have, or have had issues with chain wear and stretch, tensioners failing, guides failing (looking at you VW and BMW). So the chain is still a consumable, but a more expensive one. I'd take a belt engine over a chain engine any day of the week.
Most new chain driven engines have, or have had issues with chain wear and stretch, tensioners failing, guides failing (looking at you VW and BMW). So the chain is still a consumable, but a more expensive one. I'd take a belt engine over a chain engine any day of the week.
The new Hybrid versions are chain driven but the non hybrids still have a wet belt. The latest version of the belt has reduced problems significantly but it is critical that the correct specification oil is designed and that it is changed at the intervals stated by the manufacturers.
I’m an old school Peugeot Specialist, long retired.
I just can’t get my head round a cam belt running in oil. The 1.2 “Purecrap” engine has been a disaster costing Peugeot millions. If you have one get the belt replaced, AND, have the sump removed, cleaned together with the oil pick up filter.
The chain driven engines are just as bad, so many issues.
I think it’s sad, Peugeot used to build very good engines that lasted for ever. All I can say is don’t consider any of them.
I just can’t get my head round a cam belt running in oil. The 1.2 “Purecrap” engine has been a disaster costing Peugeot millions. If you have one get the belt replaced, AND, have the sump removed, cleaned together with the oil pick up filter.
The chain driven engines are just as bad, so many issues.
I think it’s sad, Peugeot used to build very good engines that lasted for ever. All I can say is don’t consider any of them.
I have a Mokka three cylinder 1.2 turbo auto with a wet belt engine, had it from new, just had second main dealer service done on 17,000 mls.
Have read the wet belt horror stories, but fingers crossed, so far it's been a lovely engine, plenty enough power for normal use.
I would not touch another wet belt though.
Vauxhall say they will stand by them, provided service plans have been kept up.
Have read the wet belt horror stories, but fingers crossed, so far it's been a lovely engine, plenty enough power for normal use.
I would not touch another wet belt though.
Vauxhall say they will stand by them, provided service plans have been kept up.
I'm a fan of this engine, so I thought I'd add my two penn'orth. We replaced Mrs L's Mk1 Focus with a brand new 2019 Peugeot 2008 130 EAT6 - one of the last of the line. Apart from the 'first service' at c.5000 miles, I changed the oil myself at 10, 20, 30k miles, to be sure it gets the right spec oil. As most know, it's reputation was ruined in the 20teens by DAYCO's poor quality crumbling belts, but by the time we bought ours they were fitting belts fit for the job.
Having ignored the 'top up oil' and the frequent reappearance of the dashboard spanner during the past few hundred miles, at 39,700 miles I've just changed the oil...and this time also the filter (I didn't at 30k). I have attempted two ways to calculate how much oil it has used. Firstly, by observing the oil level which is now just 7mm above the minimum mark, implying it has used 825mls (25mls per mm; 40mm and 1 litre from min to max) plus the 500mls I added a few thousand miles ago. Secondly, measuring the old oil drained from the sump and filter - just over 2.5 litres. So that's either 1325mls or just under 1500mls. Splitting the difference to, say 1400mls per 10k miles, thats around 7000 miles per litre of Castrol Magnatec 0-30, which I shall continue to use as it seems best value for money among those oils with the Peugeot approval 2312 on the can (even though the Halfords website persists in telling me it is not suitable for the car!). This usage seems OK to me. The 130hp engine never gets any better fuel than the cheapest supermarket stuff, but is occasionally 'red lined' when I drive it. The EAT6 auto prevents any labouring, hopefully minimising the risk of carbon build-up and blocked piston rings. The cambelt still appears to be in good condition. Once again, I tilted the car to the nearside and left it overnight to ensure as much as possible of the old oil sticking to the sides (as per the tomato sauce bottle) drips out.
Just as our old Focus, I have no intention of changing its cambelt (the Focus 1.6 Zetec's belt lasted the life of the car as it was designed to do - 21yrs and 160,000+ miles) unless it shows signs of deterioration or swelling. I'll let you know if any problems develop. Also, overall consumption of this cracking little engine tuned for power rather than economy is 41.4mpg on the trip computer. On long motorway journeys at 70mph it'll do over 50mpg. Now nearly seven years old, we are still well pleased with it.
Having ignored the 'top up oil' and the frequent reappearance of the dashboard spanner during the past few hundred miles, at 39,700 miles I've just changed the oil...and this time also the filter (I didn't at 30k). I have attempted two ways to calculate how much oil it has used. Firstly, by observing the oil level which is now just 7mm above the minimum mark, implying it has used 825mls (25mls per mm; 40mm and 1 litre from min to max) plus the 500mls I added a few thousand miles ago. Secondly, measuring the old oil drained from the sump and filter - just over 2.5 litres. So that's either 1325mls or just under 1500mls. Splitting the difference to, say 1400mls per 10k miles, thats around 7000 miles per litre of Castrol Magnatec 0-30, which I shall continue to use as it seems best value for money among those oils with the Peugeot approval 2312 on the can (even though the Halfords website persists in telling me it is not suitable for the car!). This usage seems OK to me. The 130hp engine never gets any better fuel than the cheapest supermarket stuff, but is occasionally 'red lined' when I drive it. The EAT6 auto prevents any labouring, hopefully minimising the risk of carbon build-up and blocked piston rings. The cambelt still appears to be in good condition. Once again, I tilted the car to the nearside and left it overnight to ensure as much as possible of the old oil sticking to the sides (as per the tomato sauce bottle) drips out.
Just as our old Focus, I have no intention of changing its cambelt (the Focus 1.6 Zetec's belt lasted the life of the car as it was designed to do - 21yrs and 160,000+ miles) unless it shows signs of deterioration or swelling. I'll let you know if any problems develop. Also, overall consumption of this cracking little engine tuned for power rather than economy is 41.4mpg on the trip computer. On long motorway journeys at 70mph it'll do over 50mpg. Now nearly seven years old, we are still well pleased with it.
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