Gravel bike wheelset - what next?
Gravel bike wheelset - what next?
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PomBstard

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7,764 posts

268 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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Have just had the gravel bike's rear wheel rebuilt, again, and the front trued, and now looking for a stronger wheelset. Current set is OE with the Norco Search, so Norco hub and rim, rebuilt with plain spokes after the originals didn't last too well. The problem seems to be that they're only 28H rims, which sees to be the way now, and I give the bike a bit of a spanking - gravel and singletrack, as well as Tarmac, and ride it as if I stole it whenever I get the chance.

I'd like to go tubeless too, if poss. So, spec is...

700c
Capable of taking 35-40c tyre
Thru-axle hub
Disc brake specific
Tubeless

Also, any tubeless tyres worth looking at? Current tyres are Clement USH and they are excellent - almost puncture proof too.

Budget? Not yet known, lets see what the options might be first. I've been using Hope Pro 2Evo/3 hubs for a few years on my FS mtb and have had zero problems. Same for the Mavic 721 rims to which they're laced. Maybe this is an option for 700c?

Edited by PomBstard on Saturday 30th December 10:15

gazza285

10,958 posts

234 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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Any 29er wheels will do, I've built up some Pacenti CL25 rims on Novatec 771/772 hubs, light and strong, and I've built up some Stans on the same hubs for our youth's bike.

Main thing I'd suggest is make sure that you have brass nipples, alloy nipples and stainless spokes are not a good combination.

PomBstard

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7,764 posts

268 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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gazza285 said:
Any 29er wheels will do.
Thanks for that - will see what I have around to play with thumbup

bigdom

2,339 posts

171 months

Saturday 30th December 2017
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Being quite heavy for a rider (105kg), my last set for the commuter/holiday/whatever bike (Croix de Fer) I had a set made up with Velocity Chukker in 36h, butted spokes, with sealed bearing hubs. Not the lightest, but certainly bomb proof - it’s the go to rim for bike polo!

I done over 3,000 miles on them, true as the day they were built. I’m assuming I’ll just swap the bearings around 10k miles. Bike always has at least 1 pannier on, there’s a mixture of track, road, woodland, kerb jumping etc in any given week.

If you’re lighter, velocity fusion or deep v would be other options.

broster

496 posts

203 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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I have a set of hope tech xc rims on the pro 2 evo hub I’m looking to sell. Be ideal!

PomBstard

Original Poster:

7,764 posts

268 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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broster said:
I have a set of hope tech xc rims on the pro 2 evo hub I’m looking to sell. Be ideal!
Free postage...??? biggrin

Looking through my spares box, I’ve got a couple of Pro 2 Evo hubs that I can use, so I’ll just get a decent set of rims to match.

PomBstard

Original Poster:

7,764 posts

268 months

Sunday 31st December 2017
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bigdom said:
Being quite heavy for a rider (105kg), my last set for the commuter/holiday/whatever bike (Croix de Fer) I had a set made up with Velocity Chukker in 36h, butted spokes, with sealed bearing hubs. Not the lightest, but certainly bomb proof - it’s the go to rim for bike polo!

I done over 3,000 miles on them, true as the day they were built. I’m assuming I’ll just swap the bearings around 10k miles. Bike always has at least 1 pannier on, there’s a mixture of track, road, woodland, kerb jumping etc in any given week.

If you’re lighter, velocity fusion or deep v would be other options.
Thanks for this - will have a look for those rims. I am lighter, but only by a handful of pies...

moonigan

2,209 posts

267 months

Tuesday 2nd January 2018
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The problem with most 29er tubeless rims is they wont take the tyre pressures you might want. Stans for example say don't put more than 45psi onto their rims or the tyre might pop off.

MON

39 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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I have a set of Hope 20Five's I run with 40c WTB Nano's and I'm very pleased with them.

Also look at Hunt 4 season if considering a full wheelset.

Bobley

730 posts

175 months

Wednesday 3rd January 2018
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I've ridden to work on Stans Iron Cross for years and they've been great but if you want to go to high pressure then the Stans Grail rim or Velocity Aileron will be sturdy.

Rob_T

1,916 posts

277 months

Friday 5th January 2018
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i run mavic crossmax slr's on my gravel / cross / adventure bike that i took off my mountain bike. perfect with 40mm smart sams.

gazza285

10,958 posts

234 months

Friday 5th January 2018
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moonigan said:
The problem with most 29er tubeless rims is they wont take the tyre pressures you might want. Stans for example say don't put more than 45psi onto their rims or the tyre might pop off.
How much pressure would you be putting in a tubeless 40c gravel tyre? Somewhere around 40psi seems to be the preferred choice.

moonigan

2,209 posts

267 months

Friday 5th January 2018
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gazza285 said:
How much pressure would you be putting in a tubeless 40c gravel tyre? Somewhere around 40psi seems to be the preferred choice.
Depends on what you are riding and how heavy you are. 40psi might feel perfect for off road but if your are riding tarmac it might feel too low.

PomBstard

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7,764 posts

268 months

Saturday 6th January 2018
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moonigan said:
gazza285 said:
How much pressure would you be putting in a tubeless 40c gravel tyre? Somewhere around 40psi seems to be the preferred choice.
Depends on what you are riding and how heavy you are. 40psi might feel perfect for off road but if your are riding tarmac it might feel too low.
Yep - off road 35-40psi would be fine, but I tend to put in about 80-90psi if the ride will be predominantly blacktop.

Will check out some Stans rims too

subsea99

464 posts

199 months

Monday 8th January 2018
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Ive just bought a set of these for the winter

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPGIROEQ/gipiemme-ro...

gazza285

10,958 posts

234 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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subsea99 said:
Ive just bought a set of these for the winter

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPGIROEQ/gipiemme-ro...
Other than being massively heavy, not tubeless ready and they won't fit the OP's bike, perfect!

subsea99

464 posts

199 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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700c - check
Disc brake specific - check
Tubeless- yeah just set mine up as that- check
Takes a 35-40c tyre - check

Thru axle ..my bad missed that one 4 out of 5 ain't bad

As for heavy .....yeah they are but strong

IroningMan

10,598 posts

272 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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subsea99 said:
Ive just bought a set of these for the winter

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPGIROEQ/gipiemme-ro...
I'm wondering about those, as my current rims are a bit posh for offroading, but the weight is putting me off: there are Alexrim CX28 builds on Merlin for a bit more cash that are half a kilo lighter.

moonigan

2,209 posts

267 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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Take a look at these: https://www.huntbikewheels.com/collections/wheels/...

One thing I'm finding with Stans is finding tyres to fit them. I have a set of 650b wheels with Stans crest rims which I want to use on my gravel bike when its built. The bike has clearance for 47mm tyres, maybe 50mm at a push. MTB tyres in these sizes don't exist (tubeless) so you then look at dedicated gravel tyres. WTB offer a really good range but WTB tubeless tyres and Stans MTB rims don't work together.

Ultimately I may end up flogging the Stans wheels and buy something that offers more tyre compatibility.

P

subsea99

464 posts

199 months

Tuesday 9th January 2018
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IroningMan said:
subsea99 said:
Ive just bought a set of these for the winter

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPGIROEQ/gipiemme-ro...
I'm wondering about those, as my current rims are a bit posh for offroading, but the weight is putting me off: there are Alexrim CX28 builds on Merlin for a bit more cash that are half a kilo lighter.
Yeah seems a lot when you think half a kilo but for winter wheels its nowt when you think of the extra gear your wearing or think of it as a 500ml water bottle,you can lose that with a good dump or piss lol