Kids on bikes
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8IKERDAVE

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2,706 posts

238 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Has anyone else noticed recently an increase in kids (mainly teenagers) riding around at night with no lights on and no helmet? I'm not sure if this has always been the case and I am noticing more because I have 2 sons but where I live it seems to be that 90% of em just don't bother with either!

I make both my boys always wear a helmet and have their lights on when it's dark. I thought this was quite basic to be honest but it seems not. I've seen 3 near misses in the last week on my estate and on every occasion if the driver had not been concentrating there would have been (at least) life changing injuries for the cyclist. It seems ridiculous to me that parents are allowing their kids out like this.

I've written to the local secondary school today to air my concerns. I know it's not their responsibility but surely if they have time to teach all this DEI (ahem stuff), then teaching things that could potentially save lives should be a priority.

I've no idea if its an image thing and being seen with a helmet and lights on is not cool but if this is the case that's completely bonkers!

Davie

6,032 posts

240 months

Tuesday 24th March
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No lights and no helmet?

Up here it's the above plus black trackies, shiny bin bag puffer jacket with hood up, faces covered, riding a stolen electric bike on one wheel whilst en route to noise up the police or stab a fellow student and help themselves to their i-phone...

I suspect the parents, if they exist, don't care...

8IKERDAVE

Original Poster:

2,706 posts

238 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Davie said:
No lights and no helmet?

Up here it's the above plus black trackies, shiny bin bag puffer jacket with hood up, faces covered, riding a stolen electric bike on one wheel whilst en route to noise up the police or stab a fellow student and help themselves to their i-phone...

I suspect the parents, if they exist, don't care...
Ah we have them as well. But I'm talking run of the mill lads just going about their normal lives!

Davie

6,032 posts

240 months

Tuesday 24th March
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8IKERDAVE said:
Ah we have them as well. But I'm talking run of the mill lads just going about their normal lives!
My lad is 8 and he's had it drummed into him that if / when he comes off and hurts himself, it'll probably be riding 500yds up the street to his pals house rather than hurling himself down some off piste stuff in the Tweed Valley. So, unless he's got a helmet on... he doesn't get to touch his bike.

But there are a couple kids around here seem to not bother with helmets... which is mental. I've said to a couple previously and was met with pure disgust. Thankfully mine watches plenty MTB fail videos on YouTube and gas a healthy understanding of how quickly it could end up in A&E. Most the young team just seem to not give a damn about most things.

Dermot O'Logical

3,519 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th March
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Darwinism.

Master Bean

5,016 posts

145 months

Tuesday 24th March
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8IKERDAVE said:
Has anyone else noticed recently an increase in kids (mainly teenagers) riding around at night with no lights on and no helmet? I'm not sure if this has always been the case and I am noticing more because I have 2 sons but where I live it seems to be that 90% of em just don't bother with either!

I make both my boys always wear a helmet and have their lights on when it's dark. I thought this was quite basic to be honest but it seems not. I've seen 3 near misses in the last week on my estate and on every occasion if the driver had not been concentrating there would have been (at least) life changing injuries for the cyclist. It seems ridiculous to me that parents are allowing their kids out like this.

I've written to the local secondary school today to air my concerns. I know it's not their responsibility but surely if they have time to teach all this DEI (ahem stuff), then teaching things that could potentially save lives should be a priority.

I've no idea if its an image thing and being seen with a helmet and lights on is not cool but if this is the case that's completely bonkers!
I've never read so much bks in one post.

Your Dad

2,198 posts

208 months

Wednesday 25th March
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Dermot O'Logical said:
Darwinism.
The same obviously applies to adults driving dark coloured cars with no lights on in fog/poor visibility/at night.

And they’ll not be wearing their car helmets either.

_Rodders_

2,198 posts

44 months

Thursday 26th March
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Gave up wearing a helmet unless I'm on my road bike and then oddly it feels weird.

Spent a few years living in Germany where most people don't wear helmet.

The sky didn't fall in.

I do however have my lights on at night and wear a proviz jacket.

Liamjrhodes

441 posts

166 months

Thursday 26th March
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I don't necessarily think its only a bike thing. A lot of the groups of youths I see are generally wearing dark colours and often hoods up and or faces covered even when not cycling.

I also see quote a few adults who appear to be commuting wearing no helmet, no lights and dark colours so its not just the kids either

McMoose

173 posts

46 months

Wednesday 1st April
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_Rodders_ said:
Gave up wearing a helmet unless I'm on my road bike and then oddly it feels weird.

Spent a few years living in Germany where most people don't wear helmet.

The sky didn't fall in.

I do however have my lights on at night and wear a proviz jacket.
I suppose that's anecdotal evidence. 99.999% of the time on bike rides wearing a helmet does not give the rider any tangible benefit. Until the 0.001% of the time when it does.

Much like an insurance policy.