Geeko ebike conversion kits
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Anyone got any experience of converting a bike with one of these Geeko kits as a relatively inexpensive option?
Thinking of converting an old road bike with one of their rear wheel kits as getting out in my local hills where I like to ride with many 10-20% gradient sections is hard work nowadays.
https://www.100g.tech/?gad_source=1&gad_campai...
Thinking of converting an old road bike with one of their rear wheel kits as getting out in my local hills where I like to ride with many 10-20% gradient sections is hard work nowadays.
https://www.100g.tech/?gad_source=1&gad_campai...
Don’t have any experience with them but looks simple enough to fit, and looking to fit something like this myself.
However it does depend on what kit you buy if you follow uk laws, which are not mentioned on the site.
By law you are only allowed a 250 kw motor and it must be pedal assisted only, the moment you press the throttle you are classed as a motorised vehicle.
Doesn’t seem to concern many people especially food delivery people with police only occasionally having a clampdown once in a blue moon.
However it does depend on what kit you buy if you follow uk laws, which are not mentioned on the site.
By law you are only allowed a 250 kw motor and it must be pedal assisted only, the moment you press the throttle you are classed as a motorised vehicle.
Doesn’t seem to concern many people especially food delivery people with police only occasionally having a clampdown once in a blue moon.
This is my opinion, and you can choose to dismiss it or not.
If it was me I would just pop over to amazon or ebay or aliexpress and cost up a mid mount motor kit. It will probably cost less and do a much better job. It will be more difficult to fit though. You could look at replacement wheel kits as well which will be far cheaper. But make sure you buy a battery with decent capacity if you want to go anywhere, especially if your are tempted to ignore the laws on power output.
I have been running a cheap chinese rear wheel kit on my bike for 5 years now, covered over 16000 miles. There have been issues along the way but generally it is very reliable.
If it was me I would just pop over to amazon or ebay or aliexpress and cost up a mid mount motor kit. It will probably cost less and do a much better job. It will be more difficult to fit though. You could look at replacement wheel kits as well which will be far cheaper. But make sure you buy a battery with decent capacity if you want to go anywhere, especially if your are tempted to ignore the laws on power output.
I have been running a cheap chinese rear wheel kit on my bike for 5 years now, covered over 16000 miles. There have been issues along the way but generally it is very reliable.
saknog said:
By law you are only allowed a 250 kw motor and it must be pedal assisted only, the moment you press the throttle you are classed as a motorised vehicle.
Doesn t seem to concern many people especially food delivery people with police only occasionally having a clampdown once in a blue moon.
Clamping down a lot more now, it is just not worth the risk, the police are seizing / crushing illegal bikes every day Doesn t seem to concern many people especially food delivery people with police only occasionally having a clampdown once in a blue moon.
Several forces are even testing bikes on mobile dynos now.
DE1975 said:
Anyone got any experience of converting a bike with one of these Geeko kits as a relatively inexpensive option?
Thinking of converting an old road bike with one of their rear wheel kits as getting out in my local hills where I like to ride with many 10-20% gradient sections is hard work nowadays.
https://www.100g.tech/?gad_source=1&gad_campai...
Are you getting into delivering takeaways OP? Thinking of converting an old road bike with one of their rear wheel kits as getting out in my local hills where I like to ride with many 10-20% gradient sections is hard work nowadays.
https://www.100g.tech/?gad_source=1&gad_campai...
Hugo Stiglitz said:
Are you getting into delivering takeaways OP?
Ha ha, it could be a side hustle, but no I was only considering their 250w options.They have printable life size templates of all the battery options and I've been and sized them up on my bike this morning, and all of them would overlap with the seat tube bottle cage preventing my fitting the battery on the down tube and carrying a drink at the same time, unless I bought the bracket to attach the battery to a top tube, which would look a mess.
The appeal of this system was it looked quite neat and batteries shaped like bottles, but if I can't carry an actual drink bottle at the same time then I don't think I'll get it.
Oh well, it will have to be typical budget creep and see what proper e-bikes I can get on the cycle to work scheme
saknog said:
Don t have any experience with them but looks simple enough to fit, and looking to fit something like this myself.
However it does depend on what kit you buy if you follow uk laws, which are not mentioned on the site.
By law you are only allowed a 250 kw motor and it must be pedal assisted only, the moment you press the throttle you are classed as a motorised vehicle.
Doesn t seem to concern many people especially food delivery people with police only occasionally having a clampdown once in a blue moon.
I realise it is a typo, but a 250kW bike would be interesting!! However it does depend on what kit you buy if you follow uk laws, which are not mentioned on the site.
By law you are only allowed a 250 kw motor and it must be pedal assisted only, the moment you press the throttle you are classed as a motorised vehicle.
Doesn t seem to concern many people especially food delivery people with police only occasionally having a clampdown once in a blue moon.
I agree OP, the hub motor kits like Swytch and the one you linked to do look quite neat and well integrated for a bolt on.
What you get is not really a full;fat e-bike, it's a pushbike with a bit of motor assistance that doesn't look like a pizza delivery vehicle.
But If you really do want to cycle effortlessly up 20% gradients you probably need a mid mount system.
What you get is not really a full;fat e-bike, it's a pushbike with a bit of motor assistance that doesn't look like a pizza delivery vehicle.
But If you really do want to cycle effortlessly up 20% gradients you probably need a mid mount system.
dontlookdown said:
I agree OP, the hub motor kits like Swytch and the one you linked to do look quite neat and well integrated for a bolt on.
What you get is not really a full;fat e-bike, it's a pushbike with a bit of motor assistance that doesn't look like a pizza delivery vehicle.
But If you really do want to cycle effortlessly up 20% gradients you probably need a mid mount system.
Even with a 1000w wheel mounted motor a 20% gradient is not going to be effortless, don't ask how I know.What you get is not really a full;fat e-bike, it's a pushbike with a bit of motor assistance that doesn't look like a pizza delivery vehicle.
But If you really do want to cycle effortlessly up 20% gradients you probably need a mid mount system.
I've been using a Geeko 250w kit for a couple of years as a Winter ebike, couple of pics here:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
On the plus side, it does the job just fine and is incredibly easy to set up (although the cassette lockring seems to be made out of some kind of chocolate/papermache hybrid). Battery and charger also seem to be 100% pukka with all necessary CE markings.
On the downside, it is a far less natural feel than the Mahle hub motors. power kicks in and fades out suddenly and, if you have been descending at speed, sometimes you lose a lot of momentum when you hit a climb as the power does not seem to kick back in until you are going under 12 MPH (Whereas the Mahle starts giving a little assistance as soon as you drop under about 15). If you never get much above the 16MPH cut off, the power comes in relatively quickly, but it is a bit of PITA on undulating routes where, one minute you are doing 30+, then you hit the next climb and the power seems to take an age to come back in.
I've got mine set up as per 25KPH/16(ish) MPH. regulation , but you can do some customisation via the app.
Overall, I'm pretty happy with it.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
On the plus side, it does the job just fine and is incredibly easy to set up (although the cassette lockring seems to be made out of some kind of chocolate/papermache hybrid). Battery and charger also seem to be 100% pukka with all necessary CE markings.
On the downside, it is a far less natural feel than the Mahle hub motors. power kicks in and fades out suddenly and, if you have been descending at speed, sometimes you lose a lot of momentum when you hit a climb as the power does not seem to kick back in until you are going under 12 MPH (Whereas the Mahle starts giving a little assistance as soon as you drop under about 15). If you never get much above the 16MPH cut off, the power comes in relatively quickly, but it is a bit of PITA on undulating routes where, one minute you are doing 30+, then you hit the next climb and the power seems to take an age to come back in.
I've got mine set up as per 25KPH/16(ish) MPH. regulation , but you can do some customisation via the app.
Overall, I'm pretty happy with it.
Thanks for the replies. Good to get feedback from someone who's got one. I clicked the link to your thread and the pics look neat.
I'm back on board with considering one of these kits. I reckon I can accommodate one on my small sized frame if I attach the bottom fixing point of the battery to the upper of the 2 bottle cage bosses on the down tube and use one of geekos frame mount adapters for the second fixing point of the battery.
I note you went for the 10ah battery which is the minimum size I'd want, and possibly even go for the 15ah size. What sort of range do you get from the 10ah battery?
I think I'd use minimal assistance most of the time and just use it on the uphill sections of my rides.
I'm back on board with considering one of these kits. I reckon I can accommodate one on my small sized frame if I attach the bottom fixing point of the battery to the upper of the 2 bottle cage bosses on the down tube and use one of geekos frame mount adapters for the second fixing point of the battery.
I note you went for the 10ah battery which is the minimum size I'd want, and possibly even go for the 15ah size. What sort of range do you get from the 10ah battery?
I think I'd use minimal assistance most of the time and just use it on the uphill sections of my rides.
DE1975 said:
What sort of range do you get from the 10ah battery?
The main thing is not to trust the "charge level" display on the battery as it's extremely optimistic.I only tend to use the bike for rides up to about 30 miles (I have to look after a knackered back as well as a slightly wayward heartbeat), it got me through a twenty and a thirty mile ride OK without recharging, but I think it was getting to the end of it's charge at that point.
I tend to use the battery at full power, and my rides are pretty hilly. I don't think its a particularly efficient system as, if you drop under 15 mph on a gentle climb, it tends to give you a shove in the back, which probably uses a bit more power then the equivalent situation on the Mahle bikes, as they feed the power in very gently.
There are so many variables when it comes to range, but on a fairly lumpy route, I reckon 50-60 miles would be about the top end for the 10ah battery, and if you were looking at that kind of distance, I'd be tempted to dial the power down slightly.
Edited by ian996 on Sunday 29th March 20:26
WPA said:
saknog said:
By law you are only allowed a 250 kw motor and it must be pedal assisted only, the moment you press the throttle you are classed as a motorised vehicle.
Doesn t seem to concern many people especially food delivery people with police only occasionally having a clampdown once in a blue moon.
Clamping down a lot more now, it is just not worth the risk, the police are seizing / crushing illegal bikes every day Doesn t seem to concern many people especially food delivery people with police only occasionally having a clampdown once in a blue moon.
Several forces are even testing bikes on mobile dynos now.
Griffith4ever said:
WPA said:
saknog said:
By law you are only allowed a 250 kw motor and it must be pedal assisted only, the moment you press the throttle you are classed as a motorised vehicle.
Doesn t seem to concern many people especially food delivery people with police only occasionally having a clampdown once in a blue moon.
Clamping down a lot more now, it is just not worth the risk, the police are seizing / crushing illegal bikes every day Doesn t seem to concern many people especially food delivery people with police only occasionally having a clampdown once in a blue moon.
Several forces are even testing bikes on mobile dynos now.
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