Changed derailleur but...???
Changed derailleur but...???
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Frimley111R

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19,235 posts

264 months

Tuesday 8th September
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Just changed the derailleur on my Boardman MTB but the top jockey wheel is hitting the cassette, no idea why. What am I doing wrong?...










Davie

6,244 posts

245 months

Tuesday 8th September
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Wind in that little Allen headed bolt that pushes against the derailleur hanger on the frame. That'll drop the rear mech down. There's alignment tools for most set ups but go with about 3mm clearance for starters. You'll likely need to tweak the cable tension etc afterwards again.

frisbee

5,605 posts

140 months

Tuesday 8th September
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Shimano have really detailed setup instructions for every component they make. Just Google the part number.

Frimley111R

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19,235 posts

264 months

Tuesday 8th September
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Davie said:
Wind in that little Allen headed bolt that pushes against the derailleur hanger on the frame. That'll drop the rear mech down. There's alignment tools for most set ups but go with about 3mm clearance for starters. You'll likely need to tweak the cable tension etc afterwards again.
Ah got it, thank you.

Yes, it goes to the smallest cog on the cassette but misses the three largest.

Frimley111R

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Tuesday 8th September
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frisbee said:
Shimano have really detailed setup instructions for every component they make. Just Google the part number.
Ok thanks, nearly there. if only I was 12 years old again, when this type of thing took me 5 minutes! hehe

POIDH

3,781 posts

95 months

Tuesday 8th September
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As above, you need to pull derailleur backwards using the 'B-tension' screw.
Download the Shimano instructions or fire up a Shimano derailleur instruction on YouTube

Xenoous

2,448 posts

88 months

Wednesday 9th September
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On a side note, is your hanger bent?

Discendo Discimus

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62 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Xenoous said:
On a side note, is your hanger bent?
Looks like it!

_Hoppers

1,693 posts

95 months

Wednesday 9th September
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I'd start by turning the bike the right way up before deciding what adjustments are needed.

_Rodders_

4,412 posts

49 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Fighting gravity won't be helping but the B tension screw needs adjusting.

RicksAlfas

14,535 posts

274 months

Wednesday 9th September
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A cheap bike maintenance stand is a revelation.
Mine was about £30 in an Amazon deal and it just folds up when not in use.
You will wonder how you managed without one!

Frimley111R

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Wednesday 9th September
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Discendo Discimus said:
Xenoous said:
On a side note, is your hanger bent?
Looks like it!
I don't know, it looks ok. If it is it is only a fraction. Gears are working ok now, I just need to adjust the derailleur to reach the largest gears.

I do have a bike stand but it is wall mounted one and I don't find it that easy to work on

Xenoous

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88 months

Wednesday 9th September
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Frimley111R said:
Discendo Discimus said:
Xenoous said:
On a side note, is your hanger bent?
Looks like it!
I don't know, it looks ok. If it is it is only a fraction. Gears are working ok now, I just need to adjust the derailleur to reach the largest gears.

I do have a bike stand but it is wall mounted one and I don't find it that easy to work on
Can you get a photo of the rear of the bike from the back? Mine for example (albeit a gravel bike) is completely straight and inline with all cogs

Frimley111R

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Wednesday 9th September
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Will do but prob tomorrow

Frimley111R

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Friday 11th September
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croyde

26,385 posts

260 months

Friday 11th September
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RicksAlfas said:
A cheap bike maintenance stand is a revelation.
Mine was about £30 in an Amazon deal and it just folds up when not in use.
You will wonder how you managed without one!
I'll second this. Got one from Decathlon for £30 and it really helped with renovating my ancient Giant Escape M1.

YouTube and Google AI were a great help too.

nickfrog

25,353 posts

247 months

Friday 11th September
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On the back of the cage there is an engraved guide as to where the chain should be when adjusting the B-screw, you'll need to shine a light towards it from the non-drive side but once you have spotted, it will make sense. You need to be on the biggest cog of course and might have to force the chain there manually if it's reluctant. Or you could adjust the screw for maximum clearance first and then shift to the big cog (it will then work) to fine tune and back it up a bit towards the engraving guide to optimise shifting.

Edited by nickfrog on Friday 11th September 08:52

Frimley111R

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Friday 11th September
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nickfrog said:
On the back of the cage there is an engraved guide as to where the chain should be when adjusting the B-screw, you'll need to shine a light towards it from the non-drive side but once you have spotted, it will make sense. You need to be on the biggest cog of course and might have to force the chain there manually if it's reluctant. Or you could adjust the screw for maximum clearance first and then shift to the big cog (it will then work) to fine tune and back it up a bit towards the engraving guide to optimise shifting.

Edited by nickfrog on Friday 11th September 08:52
Ok, thank you.

RicksAlfas

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274 months

Friday 11th September
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Might be worth swapping your cable whilst you are in there. The rear mech does look a bit out of line. Does it look better when the bike is the right way up?

Frimley111R

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Friday 11th September
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Its hard to tell. I could change the hangar but not sure if they are universal (although not looked yet). It's all working smoothly right now I just need to make the above adjustments to get to the largest cog.