Nurburgring 24th - 27th August

[NCH]

Hi all,

Anyone going to be around on this weekend at the 'Ring ?

Am going with my 996 in (small) convoy with my mate 'dkennedyvxt' and his loony Cerbera..

Cheers
N

[AdamT]

Yep we will be there,

Taking 997 Rs and one of the rufs,

best
adam

[NCH]

Excellent !

Well, if you see a Silver 996 and a rather low, mean looking Cerbera that'll be us!

Will keep eyes peeled for you guys and hopefully say Hi!

Cheers
Niall

[davyboy]

All things going well, I should be there in a black 944 Turbo.

[NCH]

So where about are you guys travelling from...

Am making the trip all way from Aberdeen, my mate from Manchester area (where he's working just now)..

I go by ferry from Rosyth to Zeebrugge then hit motorway from there..

?

N

[NCH]

Actually seeing as I'm here.. had a question about tyres perhaps Adam might be able to help with !?

I'm running Michelin Pilot Sport's N1's and am wondering about pressures for running at the 'Ring ?
Book pressures (cold) are 36 psi front and 44 psi rear for road use.. but what would you recommend for running on the track??

Any hints/tips/suggestions/advice appreciated...

N

[dkennedyvxt]

Can't wait to head back there.....hope the TVR makes it without breaking down Reminds me i need to upgrade the AA membership for the trip.

[AdamT]

NCH said:

Actually seeing as I'm here.. had a question about tyres perhaps Adam might be able to help with !?

I'm running Michelin Pilot Sport's N1's and am wondering about pressures for running at the 'Ring ?
Book pressures (cold) are 36 psi front and 44 psi rear for road use.. but what would you recommend for running on the track??

Any hints/tips/suggestions/advice appreciated...

N

Hey buddy,

I think you will find that if you are doing some quick laps that the tyres will overheat very quickly (

Im not sure if its comparable, but we are running pilot sport cups, and the hot pressures i aim for are 30 front and 32 rear. To get this, i do a lap, come in, and adjust the temps accordingly (normally lower the pressure), go out again, come in adjust the pressures, and continue until there is no longer any change and the tyres remain at the desired level.

Your book numbers sound a bit high to me, (44psi) I would lower them a bit for the ring and just experiment with what feels best.

hope this helps,

adam

Edited by AdamT on Tuesday 7th August 13:01

[NCH]

AdamT said:

NCH said:

Actually seeing as I'm here.. had a question about tyres perhaps Adam might be able to help with !?

I'm running Michelin Pilot Sport's N1's and am wondering about pressures for running at the 'Ring ?
Book pressures (cold) are 36 psi front and 44 psi rear for road use.. but what would you recommend for running on the track??

Any hints/tips/suggestions/advice appreciated...

N

Hey buddy,

I think you will find that if you are doing some quick laps that the tyres will overheat very quickly (

Im not sure if its comparable, but we are running pilot sport cups, and the hot pressures i aim for are 30 front and 32 rear. To get this, i do a lap, come in, and adjust the temps accordingly (normally lower the pressure), go out again, come in adjust the pressures, and continue until there is no longer any change and the tyres remain at the desired level.

Your book numbers sound a bit high to me, (44psi) I would lower them a bit for the ring and just experiment with what feels best.

hope this helps,

adam

Edited by AdamT on Tuesday 7th August 13:01

Thanks Adam!

I generally run them a couple of psi lower on the road than the book figures anyway, so would have def. lowered them for driving the 'Ring..
When I was there before with my Integra R I dropped the pressures about 4-5 psi all round and that def. felt better!

As you say, I think I will drop them a little before going out first then see where they are after the lap, and experiment from there..

Am looking forward to it loads, and hope to see a one of your very special Ruf's as well now!!

Cheers
Niall

[AdamT]

No problem Niall,

looking forward to meeting you

[jj996]

I am on Pilot Cups too, and run 30 all round (HOT). On normal tyres I would run 32 front and about 36 rear (But must be hot) as the sidewalls are a lot thinner than the cups.

The ring is a very bumpy track and I wouldn't advise really "Going for it" if this is your first visit, as it WILL catch you out and there is very little run off - just remember to RESPECT the ring.

Think about getting a set of TOYO R888, they are noisy but the grip will be amazing compared to your road tyres.

I am hoping to be there on the 25th and 26th August

[MannyA]

I will be there on the Saturday and Sunday in a Silver Boxster. Staying at the Ringhaus.

Looks like I will be on my own so be good to meet up.

Sounds like some nice toys will be coming along...

[NCH]

Thanks JJ..

Am going to stick with the Michelin Pilot sports I have just now I think.. then I won't get carried away thinking I have F1 levels of grip etc !!

I have been to the 'Ring before, so I def. know to give it respect!
Am going to just try lowering the pressures from road levels slightly and see how I go..

I won't be 'going for it' in the W Rohrl sense either... so no worries there!!

Just going to enjoy the drive, take it steady, have some fun on the twisty and straight bits and not do anything silly !

Looks like there'll be a few going this weekend so would be good to catch up in car park etc!

MannyA.... Me and couple of pals are staying at Ringhaus too..

cheers

[MannyA]

NCH said:

Thanks JJ..

MannyA.... Me and couple of pals are staying at Ringhaus too..

cheers

Cool - See you at the bar

[jj996]

So, Is anyone else going on these dates??

[simps22]

I'll be there in my S3. Having been there for the first time at the end of last month am looking forward to hopefully having a few dry laps this time!!!

[NCH]

Yeah, I think everyone is hoping for some dry lapping!!

N

[NCH]

Out of interest...

What is the minimum tread depth that peeps would advise taking a trip to the 'Ring with ??

Am about halfway on my tyres at moment and was hoping to get this trip out of them, then change when back...

cheers

[SpeedyDave]

NCH said:

Out of interest...

What is the minimum tread depth that peeps would advise taking a trip to the 'Ring with ??

Am about halfway on my tyres at moment and was hoping to get this trip out of them, then change when back...

cheers

Really depends on how you drive and how many laps you plan doing.
Obviously you need to have legal tread both on the ring and for the trip back. I would have thought that half worn would be ok for most people's weekend lappage (unless you're spending the entire weekend on track & going sideways).

[NCH]

Cheers,
That's kind of what i was thinking...
Not planning on going sideways much at all.. (hopefully!)

Have measured tread, and have between 4.5 and 5.0 mm front and back, so i reckon that should be good for a weekend trip there + back, and maybe 10-15 laps in-between..

(am just trying to tick all boxes before I leave...!)

N