R888's mileage on Track?
R888's mileage on Track?
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scz4

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2,769 posts

265 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Looking to change my F1's for R888's once my M3 Evo isn't my daily car. However at £650 a set I am concerned they'll last two track nights (60 miles) and that's it.

I know it's a "how long is a piece of string" question, but how many miles do you think you would get on a set, mainly tracking at Knockhill and the Nurburgring with a bit of road work to get to Germany.

Any thoughts?

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Dave 500

7,700 posts

266 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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I've done two trackdays with mine (Goodwood and an airbase) with about 2000 road miles in between and they are almost in need for replacement. I recon you would get at least four to five hard days out of them.

Edited by Dave 500 on Friday 12th September 15:57

TonyHetherington

32,091 posts

274 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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For a cracking deal I used www.camskill.co.uk and I got a set for my exige for £400 - ridiculously good value, so do ring them and give them a shout.

This looks like I work for them or something - I dont, far from it, just found them and they did a really good price!

LaurenceFrost

691 posts

276 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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In my experience, there are much better semi-slick tyres out there for the heavier cars and saloons etc than R888's.

Evo's which are of similar weight just tear through them and they go off after about 2 laps. If it's just track days you're doing, something like a Yokohama 048 would be my choice as they are a much harder compound.

They will last longer and perform just as well since they are better-suited.

See what other owners are running on your car. I'm fairly sure someone who has run R888's and another semi slick will prefer the other brand.


CTO3

334 posts

231 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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hi
used them for a while, i get about 7-8 trackdays (~4000miles) out of rears and double that for the fronts. find grip levels excellent on track. the car does only weigh about 1000kgs though, have met folks who've not found them as good on a heavier car

hth

conleth

Edited by CTO3 on Wednesday 24th September 14:18

scz4

Original Poster:

2,769 posts

265 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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LaurenceFrost said:
In my experience, there are much better semi-slick tyres out there for the heavier cars and saloons etc than R888's.

Evo's which are of similar weight just tear through them and they go off after about 2 laps. If it's just track days you're doing, something like a Yokohama 048 would be my choice as they are a much harder compound.

They will last longer and perform just as well since they are better-suited.

See what other owners are running on your car. I'm fairly sure someone who has run R888's and another semi slick will prefer the other brand.
Interesting... I will use the car for road trashes when in the mood. Will the Yoko 048's be ok for that. Hopefully they'll be cheaper too, I'll check later.

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Maxx

356 posts

283 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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Yoko's will be more expensive but will generally last longer, grip levels are pretty much identical although 888s will probably be a little better in the wet.

The problem with 888s is that if you get them a little "over hot" they do wear rapidly but if you don't overheat them they can give good service as you can read above. A048s or 888s, both will generally wear quicker than road tyres although road tyres will often wear unevenly if pushed on a track.

tertius

6,914 posts

254 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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I've done 4 days on my R888s (on a 993) and I'm reckoning on one more day and then replace.

Personally I've been really happy with them and plan to get another set to replace them.

darronwall

1,730 posts

220 months

Friday 12th September 2008
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tertius said:
I've done 4 days on my R888s (on a 993) and I'm reckoning on one more day and then replace.

Personally I've been really happy with them and plan to get another set to replace them.
i would agree 4 or 5 days but a 911 is a heavy car,i fancy a set for a vx 220 and would expect a lot more miles,my best advice about 888s is buy a temp probe and adjust pressure accordingly youll be amazed by the difference it makes!!

softtop

3,161 posts

271 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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darronwall said:
tertius said:
I've done 4 days on my R888s (on a 993) and I'm reckoning on one more day and then replace.

Personally I've been really happy with them and plan to get another set to replace them.
i would agree 4 or 5 days but a 911 is a heavy car,i fancy a set for a vx 220 and would expect a lot more miles,my best advice about 888s is buy a temp probe and adjust pressure accordingly you'll be amazed by the difference it makes!!
could you expand? what would you do?

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

283 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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They overheat on heavy cars (e46 CSL), MPSC are better on track, R888 are great on the road though.

£650 seems a bit much for a e36 sizes anyway?

scz4

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2,769 posts

265 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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m12_nathan said:
£650 seems a bit much for a e36 sizes anyway?
That's the cheaest I could find after a quick online search for 235/40/17 or 235/45/17.

tertius

6,914 posts

254 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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m12_nathan said:
They overheat on heavy cars (e46 CSL), MPSC are better on track, R888 are great on the road though.

£650 seems a bit much for a e36 sizes anyway?
I've had both MPSCs and R888s - for the money (and my ability) I'd take R888s every time.

agent006

12,058 posts

288 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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There's more than one compound of R888 y'know?

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

283 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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From memory the 235/40/18 and 265/35/18 I have were about £550 for the set.

Wasn't offered more than one compound - what compounds are available in those sizes?

Nurburgsingh

5,472 posts

262 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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I've done 4 days on my 888's on the 968 and they look fine for at least another 4 more...

tertius

6,914 posts

254 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Mine are off the car at the moment, so I had a good look at them today, apart from a couple of spots (which is very annoying) mine have loads of life left in them. Interestingly its the fronts that seem to be more worn than the rears.

If I didn't need them to be road legal they would easily do 2-3 more days.

agent006

12,058 posts

288 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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m12_nathan said:
Wasn't offered more than one compound - what compounds are available in those sizes?
As far as i know, there are at least two. I had the choice of soft or medium/soft and went for the latter.

m12_nathan

5,138 posts

283 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Cheers, I'll check it out, the GT3 guys agree with my findings though, on a heavy car with reasonable power they are too soft and go off. No mention from those guys about different compounds either?

Wonder if it is the same as 048R, in 18" rims size as they are only available in MH compound despite being available in many other compounds in smaller sizes.

tony.t

927 posts

280 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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darronwall said:
tertius said:
I've done 4 days on my R888s (on a 993) and I'm reckoning on one more day and then replace.

Personally I've been really happy with them and plan to get another set to replace them.
i would agree 4 or 5 days but a 911 is a heavy car,i fancy a set for a vx 220 and would expect a lot more miles,my best advice about 888s is buy a temp probe and adjust pressure accordingly youll be amazed by the difference it makes!!
I'd agree with checking out the temps plus getting some advice as to the correct pressure to run at.

for example; my 911 is 1250kg or thereabouts with me and fuel. MPSC run at 28F/31R psi, DO1Js anout 1 or 2 psi more per F and R. I was running 888s at the same pressure as the DO1Js and after the first session on track I was only geting around 18 miles before they went "off" and grip pretty much vanished. Examining the tyresshowed a lot of melted rubber. The chaps from Simply Tyres were at the last track day I was at and, since i'd purchased the tyres through them, I went over and let them have a look. Their advice was to try higher pressures 34F/36R. Sure enough the problem was solved. I ragged the car for over 30 mins on track without any loss of grip or evidence of over heating. It's a bit counter intuitive for me since those pressures in other tyres make for exciting levels of low grip. Odder still was their comment of 997GT3s running under 30 ???