Overtaking ettiquet

[Chris71]

...or rather being overtaken. What's the drill when you're about to let someone past - does it have to be a particular side or anything?

[kusee pee]

Always overtake on the left and on the straight and, in most case, by invitation. Some organisers will enforce more rigidly than others. Let the doors open wide to the debate about driving standards on trackdays...

[pikeyboy]

kusee pee said:

Always overtake on the left and on the straight and, in most case, by invitation. Some organisers will enforce more rigidly than others. Let the doors open wide to the debate about driving standards on trackdays...

plus if your leting some one past a slight lift will always help matters, nothing worse than letting a car past only to be shoulder to shoulder into the next corner neither of you knowing who has the right of way.....

[t11ner]

Totally agree, if they have caught you up then don't just let them past, help them to get past.

If I had a pound for every time I had some numpty pull over and then plant the throttle in his billon BHP *insert any car you don't like* that he can't do corners in, then I'd be able to afford a billion BHP *insert car you do like*!

Steve H

[GreenV8S]

Track day organisers would cover this during the briefing at the start of the day, but basically there are rules about which side overtakes occur and it is controlled by the car in front moving and indicating to one side and lifting off as necessary to let the other car past, always on straights and never into a braking zone.

[BenElliottRacing]

kusee pee said:

Always overtake on the left and on the straight and, in most case, by invitation. Some organisers will enforce more rigidly than others. Let the doors open wide to the debate about driving standards on trackdays...

unless at castle combe where passing is done on the right

[cwin]

Or if it is at Knock hill on a speed sunday either side will do even on the grass under braking.

BenElliottRacing said:

kusee pee said:

Always overtake on the left and on the straight and, in most case, by invitation. Some organisers will enforce more rigidly than others. Let the doors open wide to the debate about driving standards on trackdays...

unless at castle combe where passing is done on the right

[philevo6]

GreenV8S said:

Track day organisers would cover this during the briefing at the start of the day, but basically there are rules about which side overtakes occur and it is controlled by the car in front moving and indicating to one side and lifting off as necessary to let the other car past, always on straights and never into a braking zone.

There was two key words there.....LIFT OFF!!!!!!!!!!....cant stand idiots who pull over and stay at full throttle.

hence the overtaking car being usually on the wrong side of the track going into a corner at high speed!...not nice!!

[darronwall]

philevo6 said:

GreenV8S said:

Track day organisers would cover this during the briefing at the start of the day, but basically there are rules about which side overtakes occur and it is controlled by the car in front moving and indicating to one side and lifting off as necessary to let the other car past, always on straights and never into a braking zone.

There was two key words there.....LIFT OFF!!!!!!!!!!....cant stand idiots who pull over and stay at full throttle.

hence the overtaking car being usually on the wrong side of the track going into a corner at high speed!...not nice!!

its my pet hate ! drives me mad,they should make more of an issue in the breifing

[Elderly]

darronwall said:

philevo6 said:

GreenV8S said:

Track day organisers would cover this during the briefing at the start of the day, but basically there are rules about which side overtakes occur and it is controlled by the car in front moving and indicating to one side and lifting off as necessary to let the other car past, always on straights and never into a braking zone.

There was two key words there.....LIFT OFF!!!!!!!!!!....cant stand idiots who pull over and stay at full throttle.

its my pet hate ! drives me mad,they should make more of an issue in the breifing

+ 1

[darronwall]

Elderly said:

darronwall said:

philevo6 said:

GreenV8S said:

Track day organisers would cover this during the briefing at the start of the day, but basically there are rules about which side overtakes occur and it is controlled by the car in front moving and indicating to one side and lifting off as necessary to let the other car past, always on straights and never into a braking zone.

There was two key words there.....LIFT OFF!!!!!!!!!!....cant stand idiots who pull over and stay at full throttle.

its my pet hate ! drives me mad,they should make more of an issue in the breifing

+ 1

if someone is making it difficult or unsafe to get past them,i stay behind them until(hopefully!)the blue flag comes out,i also think if somebody gets a blue flag too much it should lead to a black,surely not keeping the traffic flowing like this must be the cause of many "offs"

[Welshwonder]

Elderly said:

darronwall said:

philevo6 said:

GreenV8S said:

Track day organisers would cover this during the briefing at the start of the day, but basically there are rules about which side overtakes occur and it is controlled by the car in front moving and indicating to one side and lifting off as necessary to let the other car past, always on straights and never into a braking zone.

There was two key words there.....LIFT OFF!!!!!!!!!!....cant stand idiots who pull over and stay at full throttle.

its my pet hate ! drives me mad,they should make more of an issue in the breifing

+ 1

+1

F*cks me off so much when this happens!

[pikeyboy]

Welshwonder said:

Elderly said:

darronwall said:

philevo6 said:

GreenV8S said:

Track day organisers would cover this during the briefing at the start of the day, but basically there are rules about which side overtakes occur and it is controlled by the car in front moving and indicating to one side and lifting off as necessary to let the other car past, always on straights and never into a braking zone.

There was two key words there.....LIFT OFF!!!!!!!!!!....cant stand idiots who pull over and stay at full throttle.

its my pet hate ! drives me mad,they should make more of an issue in the breifing

+ 1

+1

F*cks me off so much when this happens!

yes me too, when your in a car that can lap very quickly but isnt actuaqlly that fast in a straight line it drives you mad when you catch somebody they move over to let you pass and they give it the beans in thier squillion horse power car that they cant corner in and leave you in no mans land.

[stoneyV6]

Overtaking ettiquet if only there was some,, listen to the briefing they never do,,, just look around the room at the guy texting or laughing with his mates because thats the numb nuts who will look at you in the mirror and nail it down the straights,, even though you have been stuck behind him/her for the last three laps.

come on trackday organisers use the blue flags and bloody well enforce them as these cretins ruin it for all of those who know that mirrors are not just something you use when having a shave.

Edited by stoneyV6 on Monday 23 February 02:23

[deviant]

If you get stuck behind someone for a couple of laps and they show no signs of moving give yourself a drive through penalty. Tour the rest of the lap you are on and then drive through the pits...should give you a few laps until you catch up again.

When you go back in have a word with the organisers. Dont bother trying to do it yourself, most people are friendly at trackdays and the driver might just be a nervous novice (like me!) but he/she might also be a cocky gobste that will tell you where to go! Let the organisers earn the money you paid to be there and if its been made 'official' you know the problem driver is being watched.

[BenElliottRacing]

philevo6 said:

GreenV8S said:

Track day organisers would cover this during the briefing at the start of the day, but basically there are rules about which side overtakes occur and it is controlled by the car in front moving and indicating to one side and lifting off as necessary to let the other car past, always on straights and never into a braking zone.

There was two key words there.....LIFT OFF!!!!!!!!!!....cant stand idiots who pull over and stay at full throttle.

hence the overtaking car being usually on the wrong side of the track going into a corner at high speed!...not nice!!

I always bring this up in a trackday briefing if the organiser has forgotten to mention it.

another frustration can be the high powered cars letting a lower car past and then repassing on the next straight instead of holding back and allowing the slower car to gain morre ground in the following corners.

when in powerful cars I encourage the driver to think like this to help the flow of traffic. In slower cars i encourage the driver to hug the left side of the following straight if we think the above scenario could happen and we wont interfere with anyone else.

[Chris71]

I have two possible track days coming up this week (they're my first barring TF days at the 'Ring and single car airfield days) and I'm a little bit concerned that I'm going to be the slowest thing on track by a very significant margin in both instances! It's slightly unusual circumstances which mean I won't be able to arrange an instructor, so I'm just hoping to keep out of everyone's way really.

Edited by Chris71 on Monday 23 February 10:38

[bkay88]

Chris71 said:

I have two possible track days coming up this week (they're my first barring TF days at the 'Ring and single car airfield days) and I'm a little bit concerned that I'm going to be the slowest thing on track by a very significant margin in both instances! It's slightly unusual circumstances which mean I won't be able to arrange an instructor, so I'm just hoping to keep out of everyone's way really.

Edited by Chris71 on Monday 23 February 10:38

I did a track-day at Cadwell where I was, by far, the slowest thing on the track.

It wasn't a problem - just be aware of your mirrors and pull over and let people past when you can. Most people will give a wave to say thanks

There will always be cars slower than others on the track - I think it's the etiquette that's an issue rather than the car

[Chris71]

Phew. Quite relieved to find out I'm now going to being doing one of them (Brands) in someone else's much more track-focused car, so hopefully the speed differential won't be as great as it would be in the TVR. The other one (Llandow) is a much simpler track layout with plenty of visibility and loads of overtaking room. Looking forward to it now.

[dan_t]

Having done my first few track days at Castle Coombe I really got caught out by the overtake on the left side at other tracks - I know for a fact I went to the right at Silverstone when a rather pissed off looking person "pointed it out to me"

Seems to natural to me?