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im finally going to be in a position soon to be looking at getting a track car.
but I was wondering.....
if I could incorporate this into being my daily driver also. I have about a 20-30 min drive down the motorway, it would be nice to have half decent MPG, but at the same time be fast enough to put a smile on my face on the odd track day. I will of course still be modifying the car in all the usual ways including a cage.
I don't really want to spend more than say 5k on my first track car (not including on going mods)
I thought it might be nice if I could have an awesome track/daily that will still give good mpg.
if not back to the toss up of, ep3, focus, astra/corsa vxr, scoob, so on and so on lol
thanks in advance
:-)
but I was wondering.....
if I could incorporate this into being my daily driver also. I have about a 20-30 min drive down the motorway, it would be nice to have half decent MPG, but at the same time be fast enough to put a smile on my face on the odd track day. I will of course still be modifying the car in all the usual ways including a cage.
I don't really want to spend more than say 5k on my first track car (not including on going mods)
I thought it might be nice if I could have an awesome track/daily that will still give good mpg.
if not back to the toss up of, ep3, focus, astra/corsa vxr, scoob, so on and so on lol
thanks in advance
:-)
Yes diesels could do track days. Yes you'll probably have fun.
But
Diesel is too big a compromise on a track day. Heavier, narrow power band, geared and mapped for economical cruising. Plus there's the fact that you'll have fewer options for aftermarket suspension etc. Plus there's the risk of an expensive engine or transmission failure which would in all likelihood be more expensive to fix than in a petrol engine.
Petrol. Live with the MPG. You could easily get a petrol car capable of around 40mpg on a cruise anyway.
But
Diesel is too big a compromise on a track day. Heavier, narrow power band, geared and mapped for economical cruising. Plus there's the fact that you'll have fewer options for aftermarket suspension etc. Plus there's the risk of an expensive engine or transmission failure which would in all likelihood be more expensive to fix than in a petrol engine.
Petrol. Live with the MPG. You could easily get a petrol car capable of around 40mpg on a cruise anyway.
335D Auto only, and its a pretty dim witted box as well (did 30K in my one before selling it)
330D Manual, good shout (did 100K in this one!) but again bit of a compromise.
How about a bit of a left field choice. Honda accord Type R. At Low revs its a pretty economical easy to live with car. Shifts well at high revs. 4 doors, big boot, could double up as family transport. Finding a good one is the challenge (they are usually £1500-3000. A mint example recently sold for £5K on ebay)
330D Manual, good shout (did 100K in this one!) but again bit of a compromise.
How about a bit of a left field choice. Honda accord Type R. At Low revs its a pretty economical easy to live with car. Shifts well at high revs. 4 doors, big boot, could double up as family transport. Finding a good one is the challenge (they are usually £1500-3000. A mint example recently sold for £5K on ebay)
Remember that you can get an LPG converted petrol car and save 40% on fuel costs.
Or one of the more powerful MX5 or MR2 variants. Easy on fuel, very good drive, especially around twisty tracks like Cadwell Park.
Golf GTi makes a good track car, and decent road car. Megane R26 or one of the fast Clios too
Or one of the more powerful MX5 or MR2 variants. Easy on fuel, very good drive, especially around twisty tracks like Cadwell Park.
Golf GTi makes a good track car, and decent road car. Megane R26 or one of the fast Clios too
Megane DC 175 is the answer to this question, seen an add for one recently for about £4.5k, its basically like a Megane RS 225/R26 but with a diesel engine instead of the 2.0 petrol turbo. I have no idea if they are any good on track but its based on a Renaultsport job so must be at least half good.
after looking around on the internet I have decided against the idea of a diesel track car now lol
so back to my original list;
scoob - not had one yet, heard they don't always make the drive home?
ep3 TR - in my mind the sensible choice, great out the box car with added reliability bonus, no turbos to go bang
accord TR - as above
astra vxr - civic with a turbo, heard these chew through turbos?
focus ST (asbo) - nice sound, block cracking issues?
so back to my original list;
scoob - not had one yet, heard they don't always make the drive home?
ep3 TR - in my mind the sensible choice, great out the box car with added reliability bonus, no turbos to go bang
accord TR - as above
astra vxr - civic with a turbo, heard these chew through turbos?
focus ST (asbo) - nice sound, block cracking issues?
insanelewis21 said:
after looking around on the internet I have decided against the idea of a diesel track car now lol
so back to my original list;
scoob - not had one yet, heard they don't always make the drive home?
ep3 TR - in my mind the sensible choice, great out the box car with added reliability bonus, no turbos to go bang
accord TR - as above
astra vxr - civic with a turbo, heard these chew through turbos?
focus ST (asbo) - nice sound, block cracking issues?
A Impreza classic with a 2.0 is stronger than most on your list excluding the Honda's that are in a league of their own.so back to my original list;
scoob - not had one yet, heard they don't always make the drive home?
ep3 TR - in my mind the sensible choice, great out the box car with added reliability bonus, no turbos to go bang
accord TR - as above
astra vxr - civic with a turbo, heard these chew through turbos?
focus ST (asbo) - nice sound, block cracking issues?
The problem with Impreza's which is also shared by the Focus and Astra is running costs can be high.
The CTR EP3 is the safer choice because of its incredibly reliability and far lower running costs.
I've got an moderately modified RB5 (350bhp) and the costs can be quite steep sometimes although its capability on and off track is superb.
If its a car you use for other purposes a Honda CTR maybe a good choice and if you need more power you could consider a Jackson supercharger (which quite a few of the track Honda's use).
Personally I wouldn't give up my RB5 for any car on the list but like many other classic owners they get under your skin!
After following around a diesel 335d newish shape around llandow track day today in my exocet no diesels don't make sense on track couldn't handle the corners and every straight just a cloud of black s
t out the back, also the driver was being its typically bmw self and not pulling over to let much faster cars including mine past.
t out the back, also the driver was being its typically bmw self and not pulling over to let much faster cars including mine past.AntiLagGC8 said:
A Impreza classic with a 2.0 is stronger than most on your list excluding the Honda's that are in a league of their own.
The problem with Impreza's which is also shared by the Focus and Astra is running costs can be high.
The CTR EP3 is the safer choice because of its incredibly reliability and far lower running costs.
I've got an moderately modified RB5 (350bhp) and the costs can be quite steep sometimes although its capability on and off track is superb.
If its a car you use for other purposes a Honda CTR maybe a good choice and if you need more power you could consider a Jackson supercharger (which quite a few of the track Honda's use).
Personally I wouldn't give up my RB5 for any car on the list but like many other classic owners they get under your skin!
RB5 eh! my dad bought one of them brand new when they came out! I was 13/14 at the time. a personal fave of mine, would like one but I think it would be very hard to find a properly priced low miler.The problem with Impreza's which is also shared by the Focus and Astra is running costs can be high.
The CTR EP3 is the safer choice because of its incredibly reliability and far lower running costs.
I've got an moderately modified RB5 (350bhp) and the costs can be quite steep sometimes although its capability on and off track is superb.
If its a car you use for other purposes a Honda CTR maybe a good choice and if you need more power you could consider a Jackson supercharger (which quite a few of the track Honda's use).
Personally I wouldn't give up my RB5 for any car on the list but like many other classic owners they get under your skin!
JSC if I went the ep3 route would be a must mod down the line. it would just be a case of getting my head around the bee in a can sound some seem to make. on full chat, yeah awesome noise. but slower speeds urgh! lmao
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