TD tyre recommendations?
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Planning on doing a track day in my Fiesta ST, its tuned to 315 is bhp, big brakes, LSD etc, slight weight reduction, last one I did at Anglessey was on a brand new set of PS5's and they performed ok but I have a spare set of wheels with some old tyres on I am going to get taken off, will refurb the wheels and then get some TD tyres put on when they are done. Found a place that will remove and refit, for £50 which doesnt seem too bad, they wont however get rid of the old tyres, any suggestions on that ?
Will I notice a massive difference going to a track day tyre ? The car has a baffled sump so should be ok with the additional grip aspect, did that in preparation along with the brakes a while back but have not had chance to do another track day yet, I bought another car so didnt have the spare cash, but that means the Fiesta can be more track biased. Have removed the rear sets and a few other bits, we also use it as a sort of van at home.
So, what to go for, list is Nankang AR1 or NS2R, or the Zestino Gredge, plus any other recommendations, size is 205, 40 17, the wheels I have are just a set of the same Fiesta ST alloys, woudlnt mind, at least in summer just being able to use the car on the TD tyres, it doesnt do much mileage, then swap back to the PS5s for winter.
Will I notice a massive difference going to a track day tyre ? The car has a baffled sump so should be ok with the additional grip aspect, did that in preparation along with the brakes a while back but have not had chance to do another track day yet, I bought another car so didnt have the spare cash, but that means the Fiesta can be more track biased. Have removed the rear sets and a few other bits, we also use it as a sort of van at home.
So, what to go for, list is Nankang AR1 or NS2R, or the Zestino Gredge, plus any other recommendations, size is 205, 40 17, the wheels I have are just a set of the same Fiesta ST alloys, woudlnt mind, at least in summer just being able to use the car on the TD tyres, it doesnt do much mileage, then swap back to the PS5s for winter.
J4CKO said:
they wont however get rid of the old tyres, any suggestions on that ?
Just take them to your local Household Waste Recycling site.J4CKO said:
Will I notice a massive difference going to a track day tyre ?
Yes.J4CKO said:
So, what to go for, list is Nankang AR1 or NS2R, or the Zestino Gredge, plus any other recommendations,
The only ones of those I personally have used are the NS2R & they were excellent on an e36 & Mini.Jesus, that’s pricey £11.30, not much next to £600 for tyres, plus £50 for fitting, £50 for stuff to repaint but all adds to it.
Might keep a couple, pair of Falkens with plenty of tread left, actually will likely never use them but it’s cheaper to keep them by the sound of it. Ours don’t take tyres at all apparently.
Might keep a couple, pair of Falkens with plenty of tread left, actually will likely never use them but it’s cheaper to keep them by the sound of it. Ours don’t take tyres at all apparently.
Nankang AR-1
Yoko AD-09
Or a league up, Nova ZZR from https://novamotorsport.com/tyres-results-page/ assuming that they are the same as the old Avon ZZR
Yoko AD-09
Or a league up, Nova ZZR from https://novamotorsport.com/tyres-results-page/ assuming that they are the same as the old Avon ZZR
J4CKO said:
Ours don t take tyres at all apparently.
By apparently does that mean you haven't actually tried/asked?If your closest one doesn't take something you are allowed to look online & find one in your local authority area that does.
I did this before when I lived elsewhere & my closest one didn't.
Google is your friend.
E-bmw said:
J4CKO said:
Ours don t take tyres at all apparently.
By apparently does that mean you haven't actually tried/asked?If your closest one doesn't take something you are allowed to look online & find one in your local authority area that does.
I did this before when I lived elsewhere & my closest one didn't.
Google is your friend.
"What you cannot recycle at the household waste and recycling centre
We cannot accept:
commercial, business or trade waste - you should take this to appropriately licensed facilities. See business waste collection or contact the Environment Agency.
gas cylinders - they are the property of the gas company and you should return gas cylinders to the supplier
tyres
mixed food and garden waste – see YouTube animation for details
household waste that you have been paid to dispose of
household waste that isn't from where you live"
But it looks like the Manchester one in Sharston takes tyres so will take them there.
Just to chip in with this one as i ran AR1's on my MK7 ST running around the same power as you and they were great but did not last long ( think i got around 3 track days out of them ) .
I will be running a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Super Sports on my MK8 ST as im told they are one of the best road tyres for track use but still will not quite have the grip of a proper semi slick .
I will be running a set of Goodyear Eagle F1 Super Sports on my MK8 ST as im told they are one of the best road tyres for track use but still will not quite have the grip of a proper semi slick .
The likes of Nankang NS2R, Accelera 651 sport or Yoko AD08 are decent enough for track days, especially for getting a feeling for it when new. Decent also when you only occasionally do them. They heat up quick, grip well and last a fair while. Are good for dry road use, but wont have you in a ditch at the first sign of rain.
Nankang AR1, Toyo R888 or Dunlop DZ03G are way beyond that, and you'd instantly notice the difference. Significantly more expensive though. I'd not consider these unless on a dedicated track car or at least your second set of wheels.
In my opinion, save the higher class stuff for when you get some more experience under your belt. A bit of light but manageable understeer on an NS2R can keep you sensible, compared to the confidence an AR1 can give you becoming a potential hazard if you don't know the limits of either you or the car.
That said, do what your budget allows and just take it steady to begin with, you'll have a blast.
Nankang AR1, Toyo R888 or Dunlop DZ03G are way beyond that, and you'd instantly notice the difference. Significantly more expensive though. I'd not consider these unless on a dedicated track car or at least your second set of wheels.
In my opinion, save the higher class stuff for when you get some more experience under your belt. A bit of light but manageable understeer on an NS2R can keep you sensible, compared to the confidence an AR1 can give you becoming a potential hazard if you don't know the limits of either you or the car.
That said, do what your budget allows and just take it steady to begin with, you'll have a blast.
braddo said:
Does Toyo still do a 888r?
You might well want to get some more negative camber on the front too. The extra grip will increase bodyroll which can then mean the outer edge of the front tyres can get mullered.
This, on both countsYou might well want to get some more negative camber on the front too. The extra grip will increase bodyroll which can then mean the outer edge of the front tyres can get mullered.
I have been using Toyo R888r and their predecessor on track days for about 12 years on my TVR.
One degree of negative camber on the front is enough on that car.
They don't grip if it is really wet, and the tyres aren't warmed up.
On a damp day I take both wet and dry tyres.
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