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What job sites are worth looking at? Google brings up loads but some seem a bit dodgy!
Indeed, Total Jobs and Reed I've looked at but wondering if there are any others? Indeed is mainly showing care jobs for some reason.
Also, does anyone know how to get the best out of Linked in? I hear of people getting contacted through that.
Indeed, Total Jobs and Reed I've looked at but wondering if there are any others? Indeed is mainly showing care jobs for some reason.
Also, does anyone know how to get the best out of Linked in? I hear of people getting contacted through that.
I speak as someone, effectively, on the other side of these. As such, I can say they are all pretty much pointless and useless.
Admittedly, my market is not that covered by job boards (I'm 100% retained, main board/SLT/C-suite), but I have a sister business that is and plenty of contacts and everyone says the same thing.
Jobs advertised are seldom real (agencies have ad targets to hit as part of contracts so most jobs are at best old or inaccurate, at worst just 100% raw fiction).
CV databases are out of date, poorly set up and poorly (lazily) indexed and only really useful for employers to look at which of their employees have been stupid enough to put their details on a public database.
Even if you do find a real job advertised it's a flawed process, because..... applying to a job is an instant, zero-thought process though one-click/"Easy Apply" or similar, you'll be one of 200/500/1000 applicants, most of which will have zero relevance but "thought they'd give it a go anyway because its so easy" (see the one-click/'easy apply' comments above) so the hiring manager will get bored of reading CVs of under-skilled workers from some far flung part of the country/world that they will likely never even see your CV.
As an example of how desperate these job board are, and even though they are wholly irrelevant for my market (and admit as much), I've had free access/trial offers this week alone from indeed, cv library, topjobs, totaljobs, jobsite, gaapweb. And it's only Thursday so there are time for more.
Just my 2p!
Admittedly, my market is not that covered by job boards (I'm 100% retained, main board/SLT/C-suite), but I have a sister business that is and plenty of contacts and everyone says the same thing.
Jobs advertised are seldom real (agencies have ad targets to hit as part of contracts so most jobs are at best old or inaccurate, at worst just 100% raw fiction).
CV databases are out of date, poorly set up and poorly (lazily) indexed and only really useful for employers to look at which of their employees have been stupid enough to put their details on a public database.
Even if you do find a real job advertised it's a flawed process, because..... applying to a job is an instant, zero-thought process though one-click/"Easy Apply" or similar, you'll be one of 200/500/1000 applicants, most of which will have zero relevance but "thought they'd give it a go anyway because its so easy" (see the one-click/'easy apply' comments above) so the hiring manager will get bored of reading CVs of under-skilled workers from some far flung part of the country/world that they will likely never even see your CV.
As an example of how desperate these job board are, and even though they are wholly irrelevant for my market (and admit as much), I've had free access/trial offers this week alone from indeed, cv library, topjobs, totaljobs, jobsite, gaapweb. And it's only Thursday so there are time for more.
Just my 2p!
Frimley111R said:
So if job boards are all garbage, what should people do if looking for a new role?
Personally - i havent found them to be garbage. Yes, they take a bit of sifting through but there are jobs still there.Also, i find that these days recruiters tend to come to me via linkedin - theres a setting there i can set to 'actively looking for work' so recruiters can see that.
My role is quite niche so its maybe easier for me to filter on job sites via a couple of keywords, and also recruiters know exactly what i do and if its a match to what they need.
Frimley111R said:
So if job boards are all garbage, what should people do if looking for a new role?
Million dollar question. Reputable recruiters, look for genuine ads on paid for sites, company websites, contact companies direct.But first of all, understand what you want, if it's realistic, etc.
bergclimber34 said:
The worst part seems to be that agencies will ring you via a site but use THEIR CV on thrir record, instead of the one on the site that is routinely uodated, so can be years old.
If you contracted as much as I have over years your CV is with scores of agencies.
There is the issue. Contingent recruiters will only ever want to send out their version of your CV (no contact details, their branding, their contact details, their disclosure/T&Cs etc).If you contracted as much as I have over years your CV is with scores of agencies.
This is for reasons of speed (they are all in a race to get your CV to the business first) as well as to avoid sharking businesses from contacting candidates directly and claiming they received it directly from you.
No easy way out, other than to ensure agencies have up to date CVs on their system, and if you want to be really 'helpful', supply a duplicate copy without your contact details on.
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