Joining the Navy
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Scotty2

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1,431 posts

290 months

Friday 6th March
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From the "Where is our Navy" thread I didn't want to go off topic, but No1 Son with rather poor, or maybe perfect timing, is looking at joining the Navy as Mech Tech or Weapons Officer. He has passed two aptitude tests and has been training for the fitness tests and is almost there. Aged 28 and with a degree in Forensics and Criminology (which he has not been able to get a career with...) any advice on how to proceed / careers advice expectations or tips?


tozerman

1,275 posts

251 months

Sunday 8th March
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My experience may or may not be valid as I joined the Navy in 1978 so different times..
However my advice is to really concentrate on fitness (which he is doing) and to just make sure he is doing everything they are asking of him.
Back in my day only 7 applicants out of every 100 were successful in gaining entry. The only test you can't prepare for is the "attitude test".
If the final decision is still made by an interviewing officer then he will decide that with all the previous tests etc in place, are you a good fit for the Royal Navy ? i.e. does the officer think you have what it takes.
You should answer questions carefully and not blurt out daft answers (needless to say) and make sure the officer knows/thinks that you are very hungry to succeed and you are ambitious. These things are standard issue good advice for any interview but possibly more at stake if the office makes the wrong decision and enlists someone who is simply not cut out for life at sea.

Good Luck mate thumbup

Ted Maul

1,654 posts

30 months

Sunday 8th March
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Not sure about 'mech tech' but pretty sure there is no such thing as a Weapons Officer and the two titles suggest one is commissioned and the other isn't. Would be useful to know exactly what it is he's going for.

Voldemort

7,242 posts

302 months

Sunday 8th March
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Ted Maul said:
but pretty sure there is no such thing as a Weapons Officer
https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers/roles/weapon-engineer-officer

Ted Maul

1,654 posts

30 months

Sunday 8th March
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My point entirely, there is no such role as a Weapons Officer. There is a Warfare Officer and a Weapons Engineer Officer but there is no Weapons Officer, there is also no such role as a mech tech.

Edited by Ted Maul on Sunday 8th March 18:58

LivLL

12,250 posts

221 months

Sunday 8th March
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Ted Maul said:
My point entirely, there is no such role as a Weapons Officer. There is a Warfare Officer and a Weapons Engineer Officer but there is no Weapons Officer, there is also no such role as a mech tech.

Edited by Ted Maul on Sunday 8th March 18:58
mech tech is slang for Engineering Technician.

You're right though a Weapons Officer is a commissioned role, normally trained at Dartmouth. OP could be mixing them up with this role.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers/roles/enginee...

redstar1

325 posts

15 months

Sunday 8th March
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If its a choice rather than "I need to do something", then do it. Hell love it and will stand him in good stead for life.

Hugo Stiglitz

40,691 posts

235 months

Sunday 8th March
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redstar1 said:
If its a choice rather than "I need to do something", then do it. Hell love it and will stand him in good stead for life.
+1000.

He'll visit all sorts of countries, etc etc.



Scotty2

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1,431 posts

290 months

Sunday 8th March
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Thanks for the responses.

To add.
He has a degree in Forensics and Criminology but was unable to find any careers in that field. He has been working a Security Guard with SIA licence on shifts for the last few years in the Energy industry so OK with weird hours. Can now pass the fitness tests.

The terminology for the available positions are due to my remembrence of conversations with ex navy personnel locally who suggested paths, but roles may have been re-described.

I used to employ some ex-Navy personnel in my previous career and found them to be disciplined and have a good work/team ethic with some good anecdotes from the past!

It's not a knee jerk "do something" feeling, it's something he's been considering for a couple of years.

I think it is "what would suit him best" type scenario, but hopefully interviews and getting to know him would steer him in the right direction.

eta. Has competent crew, working on Day Skipper and has sea legs.

Ted Maul

1,654 posts

30 months

Sunday 8th March
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LivLL said:
Ted Maul said:
My point entirely, there is no such role as a Weapons Officer. There is a Warfare Officer and a Weapons Engineer Officer but there is no Weapons Officer, there is also no such role as a mech tech.

Edited by Ted Maul on Sunday 8th March 18:58
mech tech is slang for Engineering Technician.

You're right though a Weapons Officer is a commissioned role, normally trained at Dartmouth. OP could be mixing them up with this role.

https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/careers/roles/enginee...
Makes sense. I was green through and through but spent enough time with dark blue to know that a) I never want to go to sea again and b) pinching the wardroom clock is a bad thing.

Back to the OP though, it would be worth finding out exactly what it is he's after. If he's going non-commissioned at the age of 28 with a degree (assuming BSc?) he may find it frustrating, people do do it at that age and with decent quals but they're a rarity. If he's going for a commission 28 is still a little older than most but again, entirely doable.

sam.rog

1,399 posts

102 months

Sunday 8th March
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Does he have family or looking to start one soon?

Work with a lot of ex forces. They all say the same thing. Fun when you’re young and want to see the world (navy best for this). Hell if you have a young family.

My experience and massive generalisation.
Few who have done full term are difficult to work with. Less than 10 years in and they can cope with the outside world and make good engineers in the outside world.

CrgT16

2,439 posts

132 months

Sunday 8th March
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Sounds a good plan. Not sure about travelling the world. Might be an office job out of Portsmouth… smile

Scotty2

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1,431 posts

290 months

Sunday 22nd March
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Well, his application is in, let's see how the process goes...

tozerman

1,275 posts

251 months

Monday 23rd March
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Fingers crossed for you smile

dai1983

3,160 posts

173 months

Monday 23rd March
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As an ex-marine but now a WAFU engineer I'd not join up as a non officer in a role at sea at all. The MN or RFA routes mean you get more time off and usually tax free too.

If he doesn't go officer then there's Accelerated Apprenticeship schemes for ME, WE and air engineering. Also for the subs but fk that! You start on 37 grand as a "potential" leading hand with no responsibilities until you go on your LH course within two years. Just need a maths or physics a level


Scotty2

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1,431 posts

290 months

Saturday
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He has applied for an Engineering Officer role and it was just submitted today! (He told me he'd done it last week but hadn't actually sent it off so the clock actually starts today...).