Salary Sacrifice & In year changes to pension contributions
Salary Sacrifice & In year changes to pension contributions
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coetzeeh

Original Poster:

2,890 posts

266 months

Monday 17th August
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Hi, some advice needed please.

PAYE. Multinational.

Historically I have been able to change the pension contribution percentage through work portal - something like select the % change in August and change is effective in Sep pay. I've previously made changes perhaps 2/3 times a year depending on circumstances.

I've been informed by payroll that to be compliant with HMRC guidance, going forward I can make changes to the % once a year only - Dec when we select other benefit options available such as private medical and so on for the following year. "Making frequent changes increases the risk the arrangement is ineffective for Income Tax / NICs savings, potentially impacting you in a negative way."

Is this "once a year" thing real?

Thank you in advance.

Mar5hall

205 posts

4 months

Monday 17th August
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Internal policy but seems bit restrictive. You can always pay into a sipp as well and reclaim the tax.

2 GKC

2,313 posts

135 months

Monday 17th August
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Complete bullst. HR trying to reduce their workload at your expense.

coetzeeh

Original Poster:

2,890 posts

266 months

Monday 17th August
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2 GKC said:
Complete bullst. HR trying to reduce their workload at your expense.
My suspicion exactly.

Bungleaio

6,587 posts

232 months

Monday 17th August
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Our policy is for only one change per year too.

Mar5hall

205 posts

4 months

Monday 17th August
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Bungleaio said:
Our policy is for only one change per year too.
Yep seen this at corporates..

coetzeeh

Original Poster:

2,890 posts

266 months

Monday 17th August
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Mar5hall said:
Bungleaio said:
Our policy is for only one change per year too.
Yep seen this at corporates..
So a policy as opposed to aligning with HMRC guidelines.

TheK1981

330 posts

105 months

Monday 17th August
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You mention other benefits, my place nearly got caught out with salary sacrifice and almost allowed people to go below minimum wage, could it be something with that, it may not affect you but lower paid staff it could

alscar

9,892 posts

243 months

Tuesday 18th August
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Iirc constant changes aren't " allowed "by HMRC per se whereas changes ( material ) in circumstance are.

Granadier

1,333 posts

57 months

Tuesday 18th August
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My employer does this. There's a three-week window in March when we're allowed to make changes to pension contribution, private medical benefits and similar stuff, then it's locked for the rest of the year. All changes take effect on April 1, which is also the date when pay rises and promotions happen. It's like they want to do all their HR admin for the year in one go and then shut up shop for 11 months except for joiners and leavers.

I'd never come across this at other places I'd worked, and it does seem really strange and restrictive. What if, say, your partner loses their job in May and you want to switch money from your pension contributions to your take-home pay? You'd have to wait almost a year.

Sheepshanks

41,071 posts

149 months

Tuesday 18th August
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Granadier said:
What if, say, your partner loses their job in May and you want to switch money from your pension contributions to your take-home pay? You'd have to wait almost a year.
One would hope that they’d make an exception in exceptional circumstances. Success probably depends on whether your face fits.

bmwmike

8,721 posts

138 months

Tuesday 18th August
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I'm PAYE at a multinational similar to OP. We had a portal which allowed changes 3 times per year. I used to take full advantage as bonuses and the incompetence at HMRC etc dictate. They got in touch and said "ideally" once per year. I asked why then does the portal allow 3 times per year? No answer. So, I kept doing as I pleased and they never said anything again. Some point in the past couple of years the portal changed and its now 12x so i presume HR knickers are getting knotty.




MadCaptainJack

1,801 posts

70 months

Tuesday 18th August
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coetzeeh said:
"Making frequent changes increases the risk the arrangement is ineffective for Income Tax / NICs savings, potentially impacting you in a negative way."
Might be related to the upcoming changes to salary sacrifice. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/changes...

Bit early tho...

Digssi

7 posts

137 months

Wednesday 19th August
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Happy to be told am wrong, but it used to be I thought that salary sacrifice schemes were contractual changes and should only be changed by life events (as determined by employer) during the year outside of a window . So it sounds like they are playing it safe as technically HMRC could decide the scheme isn’t compliant. However I think most just run the risk.