Ir35 and working abroad
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I'm just about to finish a contract, outside IR35, and may have a shot at 6 months in France.
Whilst I wait for my accountant and business advisors appointment for solid advice, is there anything I should be preparing to ask them, or does anyone have any advice ahead of that meeting please.
Im the director of my ltd co, and pay myself salary and dividends.
Whilst I wait for my accountant and business advisors appointment for solid advice, is there anything I should be preparing to ask them, or does anyone have any advice ahead of that meeting please.
Im the director of my ltd co, and pay myself salary and dividends.
Edited by Slyjoe on Thursday 10th September 18:40
Slyjoe said:
I'm just about to finish a contract, outside IR35, and may have a shot at 6 months in France.
Whilst I wait for my accountant and business advisors appointment for solid advice, is there anything I should be preparing to ask them, or does anyone have any advice ahead of that meeting please.
Im the director of my ltd co, and pay myself salary and dividends.
More details needed, e.g. would you be living in France? If so, will it be more or less than 182 days and do you have a French work permit?Whilst I wait for my accountant and business advisors appointment for solid advice, is there anything I should be preparing to ask them, or does anyone have any advice ahead of that meeting please.
Im the director of my ltd co, and pay myself salary and dividends.
Edited by Slyjoe on Thursday 10th September 18:40
So they've asked me if I would be ok living in France, I answered yes. Beyond that I'm just waiting to see if I've got it first, and then flesh out the details, As its for 6 months I guess they'd have to sort a visa.
I'm just trying to prepare questions / solutions for any pitfalls that may arise if I get offered the job.
It is a purely French company. If it makes any difference, I have a very special set of skills..... (that may not be available in my speciality in France)
I'm just trying to prepare questions / solutions for any pitfalls that may arise if I get offered the job.
It is a purely French company. If it makes any difference, I have a very special set of skills..... (that may not be available in my speciality in France)
Edited by Slyjoe on Friday 11th September 13:03
Edited by Slyjoe on Friday 11th September 13:08
Slyjoe said:
It is a purely French company. If it makes any difference, I have a very special set of skills..... (that may not be available in my speciality in France)
In that case I can't see how it can be inside IR35. Firstly given that the determination is made by the Employer how are HMRC going to prosecute a purely-French company for not paying UK taxes?There might be French taxes that you could be liable for but that's a different matter
Prior to brexit this was pretty easy. Post it is much less so. I currently have a UK Ltd and a French sas (partnership).
The up to 6 months is a kicker. Once you are living here things like having to import you car, pay French tax and health contributions get complicated pretty quickly.
Setting anything up in France is a lottery, might be easy, but much more likely to be slow and difficult. We are here for the long term, but in your case you need to avoid being "resident" under all the French legal requirements, that may take some gynamistics. You need to have a long talk with one of the relocation companies, spelling out what you what, need and what you do not what. It will cost you, but it is money well spent. The first challenge is how will you get past the 90 in any 180 day restrictions? Yes you can buy a longer term 'visitor' visa, but if you are working that raises issues. Best of luck.
You could start here https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/vo... .
The up to 6 months is a kicker. Once you are living here things like having to import you car, pay French tax and health contributions get complicated pretty quickly.
Setting anything up in France is a lottery, might be easy, but much more likely to be slow and difficult. We are here for the long term, but in your case you need to avoid being "resident" under all the French legal requirements, that may take some gynamistics. You need to have a long talk with one of the relocation companies, spelling out what you what, need and what you do not what. It will cost you, but it is money well spent. The first challenge is how will you get past the 90 in any 180 day restrictions? Yes you can buy a longer term 'visitor' visa, but if you are working that raises issues. Best of luck.
You could start here https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/vo... .
Edited by Pete54 on Saturday 3rd October 11:56
I've applied for a 6-month work visa; it seemed pretty straightforward, to cover the first 6 months, keeping my uk ltd company, and avoiding any further complications.
Beyond that, if the contract needs to be extended any longer, I hope the company may be able to assist. I guess what my partner and I would like would be a path to EU citizenship/residency eventually, but that's a bridge to cross at a later date.
Beyond that, if the contract needs to be extended any longer, I hope the company may be able to assist. I guess what my partner and I would like would be a path to EU citizenship/residency eventually, but that's a bridge to cross at a later date.
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