If you were 20
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To have a good life on 30k, I'd start by accepting that I wasn't going to be able to stay in this country, so I suppose I'd start out with where I wanted to be, then look at what skills shortages they had there, on the basis that it's going to be far easier to get in and get a job if you've got skills they need.
Remember though not to look at what will earn 30k here, but what will earn 30k in whichever country you're considering.
Remember though not to look at what will earn 30k here, but what will earn 30k in whichever country you're considering.
I think he was insinuating that you couldn't live a good life in this country for £30k.
Depending on where you are based and what you want from life, I think it is possible to live comfortably here for £30k (providing you're being realistic!)
If I was 20 again I think i'd look at learing a skill which would allow me to run my own company providing a service that is always going to be in demand. Although builders, plumbers, joiners and plasterers suffer in economic downturns like anyone else, if you keep your activities at a managable level and appropriate to what you want to achieve, then you should be able to ride them out!
Depending on where you are based and what you want from life, I think it is possible to live comfortably here for £30k (providing you're being realistic!)
If I was 20 again I think i'd look at learing a skill which would allow me to run my own company providing a service that is always going to be in demand. Although builders, plumbers, joiners and plasterers suffer in economic downturns like anyone else, if you keep your activities at a managable level and appropriate to what you want to achieve, then you should be able to ride them out!
If I had my time over I put the work in now and get a proper profession and I'm talking one of the following:
Lawyer, Solicitor, Doctor (private ideally) etc. Even if you're crap at and even when times are hard you'll still make good money for the rest of your days. These jobs are bread and butter - despite social, political and technological changes they'll always be required. You get out what you put in. So anything that you need to train years for in my opinion will stand you in good stead long term. To earn big money without putting in the training you need to be personable and be able to sell.
Failing that, do something you enjoy. If you're good at it then the rewards will come.
As for 30k a year - well it's all relative. Depends on what makes you tick and be happy. If you'd like a 7 bed Surrey mansion, bachelor life, trips to Mustique and a new 997/Ferrari every year then 30k won't do. If you're happy with a 2 kids, a semi in Durham, holiday's in Magaluf and a Ford Focus then fill your boots, live long and prosper.
Lawyer, Solicitor, Doctor (private ideally) etc. Even if you're crap at and even when times are hard you'll still make good money for the rest of your days. These jobs are bread and butter - despite social, political and technological changes they'll always be required. You get out what you put in. So anything that you need to train years for in my opinion will stand you in good stead long term. To earn big money without putting in the training you need to be personable and be able to sell.
Failing that, do something you enjoy. If you're good at it then the rewards will come.
As for 30k a year - well it's all relative. Depends on what makes you tick and be happy. If you'd like a 7 bed Surrey mansion, bachelor life, trips to Mustique and a new 997/Ferrari every year then 30k won't do. If you're happy with a 2 kids, a semi in Durham, holiday's in Magaluf and a Ford Focus then fill your boots, live long and prosper.
R4PID said:
If I had my time over I put the work in now and get a proper profession and I'm talking one of the following:
Lawyer, Solicitor, Doctor (private ideally) etc.
Accountant? Easier to get into than the above and money is pretty comparable.Lawyer, Solicitor, Doctor (private ideally) etc.
(Last time they revised the Consultant's contract for doctors it was law and finance they stacked it up against).
Majority of private doctors also do NHS work, so you're looking at a comparatively long week.
I am 23, and am seriously considering a career change.
My career has been as follows:
IT Apprenticeship - 2003-2004
IT 2nd Line Support - 2004-2007
IT Project Managment - 2007-Present
I am currently looking for a Range Rover Vogue, and have a few quid in the bank. But all is not as well as it seems...
Despite everyone saying 'oh your so lucky, you have such a good job etc' I dont actually enjoy it that much.
I find myself always being the underdog as I am young, and find myself getting stressed easily as I always have to go that extra mile or double check and check again all of my work. I constantly out to make other people happy (a lot of them are difficult people)
I dont enjoy coming and sitting in front of a screen in a quite office all day, and I genuinely think that its bad for my health.
All may be well for me financially at the moment as I am still at home - but when I move out its an entirely different ballgame as 75% of my income goes out of the Window on bills and a mortgage.
I am consiering a career change before it's too late, and I have a mortgage to worry about.
If I could go back to being 20, I would go for a manual skilled job, or something physical, this based on a few examples:
- A friend of mine does heavy haulage for JCB. He earns double what I do and is younger than me.
- Another friend of mine is a maintaince supervisor at British airways, he also earns a substaintial amount more than me.
- Abother chap is an electrician, he is also younger than me, and only works three days a week and chooses what jobs he does.
I am considering starting my own landscape gardening company with some friends that are also in the same boat.
Any advice is appreciated,
Cheers
Matt
My career has been as follows:
IT Apprenticeship - 2003-2004
IT 2nd Line Support - 2004-2007
IT Project Managment - 2007-Present
I am currently looking for a Range Rover Vogue, and have a few quid in the bank. But all is not as well as it seems...
Despite everyone saying 'oh your so lucky, you have such a good job etc' I dont actually enjoy it that much.
I find myself always being the underdog as I am young, and find myself getting stressed easily as I always have to go that extra mile or double check and check again all of my work. I constantly out to make other people happy (a lot of them are difficult people)
I dont enjoy coming and sitting in front of a screen in a quite office all day, and I genuinely think that its bad for my health.
All may be well for me financially at the moment as I am still at home - but when I move out its an entirely different ballgame as 75% of my income goes out of the Window on bills and a mortgage.
I am consiering a career change before it's too late, and I have a mortgage to worry about.
If I could go back to being 20, I would go for a manual skilled job, or something physical, this based on a few examples:
- A friend of mine does heavy haulage for JCB. He earns double what I do and is younger than me.
- Another friend of mine is a maintaince supervisor at British airways, he also earns a substaintial amount more than me.
- Abother chap is an electrician, he is also younger than me, and only works three days a week and chooses what jobs he does.
I am considering starting my own landscape gardening company with some friends that are also in the same boat.
Any advice is appreciated,
Cheers
Matt
degree route: pharmacy
starting pay is c£30k for the likes of boots etc, hospital pharmacy starts around £25k.
the main reason i'd do this though is for locum work. every chemists needs a qualified pharmacist as a legal requirement for trading, so there is always someone willing to pay £300/day for your services even for fresh grads. a couple of people i know [mid 20's] do this - one working mon-fri and clearing £60k/yr, the other as and when and spending 4+mths of the year travelling/partying. very nice, easy lifestyle imo.
non-degree route i'd say RAF/FAA/AAC pilot, then offshore/aircraft engineering apprenticeship.
starting pay is c£30k for the likes of boots etc, hospital pharmacy starts around £25k.
the main reason i'd do this though is for locum work. every chemists needs a qualified pharmacist as a legal requirement for trading, so there is always someone willing to pay £300/day for your services even for fresh grads. a couple of people i know [mid 20's] do this - one working mon-fri and clearing £60k/yr, the other as and when and spending 4+mths of the year travelling/partying. very nice, easy lifestyle imo.
non-degree route i'd say RAF/FAA/AAC pilot, then offshore/aircraft engineering apprenticeship.
JCW_Matt said:
I am considering starting my own landscape gardening company with some friends that are also in the same boat.
Any advice is appreciated,
Matt, on this particular point I would think very carefully before mixing business and buddies... Its sad, but unfortunately when it comes to all things financial, people can change and its even more ugly having to fight it out with someone you thought was your mate... Any advice is appreciated,
If you can, go for something alone - If its successful then you still have your mates, you can employ someone, or get someone to buy in to the business, but on your terms when you're ready.
Re the original post - I would definately have got myself into a 'trade' - whether thats electrics / specialist metal / motor work etc - something that would have lent itself well to creating a business around.
Good luck!
Mr POD said:
Ry_B said:
Again and wanted to be fairly sucessful, aiming for around 30k per year to have a good life, what would you do? What would you train for?
Train driver. and I'd use all my earnings to become a helicopter pilotI want to be a train driver. How ?
Mr POD said:
Mr POD said:
Ry_B said:
Again and wanted to be fairly sucessful, aiming for around 30k per year to have a good life, what would you do? What would you train for?
Train driver. and I'd use all my earnings to become a helicopter pilotI want to be a train driver. How ?
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