How to justify not giving a dick a job,
Discussion
Bloke turns up for an interview, he has by far the most experience of anyone you've interviewed. Trouble is, the bloke is a prick.
On paper, it's hard to look past this guy. He had cracking answers to everything put to him but came across as actually pretty patronising to both me and my boss like we were asking him stupid questions.
On a personal level, I wouldn't have this guy anywhere near me, my boss feels the same. Is this enough to justify not giving him the job?
I'd put a lot of stock in how someone presents their skills to you, his CV was full and extensive but littered with bad spelling mistakes which were lazily copied and pasted into more than one job role. He also included photocopies of a load of certificates, many of which had expired and most of which were really trivial to say the least. That said to me he has a complete inability to filter out the bulls
t.
To summarise: Experience and can talk the talk but a lazy illiterate cock that doesn't know when to shut up.
On paper, it's hard to look past this guy. He had cracking answers to everything put to him but came across as actually pretty patronising to both me and my boss like we were asking him stupid questions.
On a personal level, I wouldn't have this guy anywhere near me, my boss feels the same. Is this enough to justify not giving him the job?
I'd put a lot of stock in how someone presents their skills to you, his CV was full and extensive but littered with bad spelling mistakes which were lazily copied and pasted into more than one job role. He also included photocopies of a load of certificates, many of which had expired and most of which were really trivial to say the least. That said to me he has a complete inability to filter out the bulls
t.To summarise: Experience and can talk the talk but a lazy illiterate cock that doesn't know when to shut up.
Papa Hotel said:
I'd put a lot of stock in how someone presents their skills to you, his CV was full and extensive but littered with bad spelling mistakes which were lazily copied and pasted into more than one job role. He also included photocopies of a load of certificates, many of which had expired and most of which were really trivial to say the least. That said to me he has a complete inability to filter out the bullst.
This is all you need to justify why you're saying no if you indeed want to give any feedback. Or just there was a better candidate.t.Road Pest said:
Papa Hotel said:
I'd put a lot of stock in how someone presents their skills to you, his CV was full and extensive but littered with bad spelling mistakes which were lazily copied and pasted into more than one job role. He also included photocopies of a load of certificates, many of which had expired and most of which were really trivial to say the least. That said to me he has a complete inability to filter out the bullst.
This is all you need to justify why you're saying no if you indeed want to give any feedback. Or just there was a better candidate.t.What kind of job is it?
Is it client facing or you just thinking he'll piss folk off in the office.
I had a good few bawbags work for me and they were good employees.
It may just have been extreme nerves as well. Credit crunch times and he may be really needing the job. His desire not to look flustered came across as patronising.
JAT.
Is it client facing or you just thinking he'll piss folk off in the office.
I had a good few bawbags work for me and they were good employees.
It may just have been extreme nerves as well. Credit crunch times and he may be really needing the job. His desire not to look flustered came across as patronising.
JAT.
I wouldn't touch him, simply because no matter how good he is, if you and/or your other colleagues can't get along with him, then it'll make things quite unpleasant.
Also, just because he can give all the right answers doesn't necessarily mean he can do the job as well as he claims. I have a freelance guy who's a bit like that, nice chap, talks the talk as it were, but after an hour in his company you just want to slap him. He's never wrong, if he screws up there's always an elaborate and improbably series of excuses or stories. It drives us mad, but one of our clients seems to like him so we keep him on the books for them. His standard of work is nowhere near as good as he thinks it is either, but he won't take any criticism on board.
All in all, it's probably a bunch of seemingly insignificant things when taken in isolation, but if he annoys a client, or other colleagues, then you'll have a potential problem on your hands. Relationships with other people are a large part of most jobs, and a failure in this area is likely to impact on the work being done.
Also, just because he can give all the right answers doesn't necessarily mean he can do the job as well as he claims. I have a freelance guy who's a bit like that, nice chap, talks the talk as it were, but after an hour in his company you just want to slap him. He's never wrong, if he screws up there's always an elaborate and improbably series of excuses or stories. It drives us mad, but one of our clients seems to like him so we keep him on the books for them. His standard of work is nowhere near as good as he thinks it is either, but he won't take any criticism on board.
All in all, it's probably a bunch of seemingly insignificant things when taken in isolation, but if he annoys a client, or other colleagues, then you'll have a potential problem on your hands. Relationships with other people are a large part of most jobs, and a failure in this area is likely to impact on the work being done.
In my experience recruiting people at work - there are only 3 selection criteria :
1. can they do the job
2. are they motivated to do the job well.
3. will they fit in and work effectively with colleagues.
he clearly fails on 3. - totally legitimate reason for not offering a job - you can call it "didnt demonstrate team working skills @
1. can they do the job
2. are they motivated to do the job well.
3. will they fit in and work effectively with colleagues.
he clearly fails on 3. - totally legitimate reason for not offering a job - you can call it "didnt demonstrate team working skills @
As a recruitment consultant I've had candidates like this. If they were genuinely good I would either tell them straight what they need to work on to get a job, coming across as lazy and arrogant is quite a common one, especially with people who have spent a while contracting.
Other option would be contracting.
As this isn't your problem here, then I wouldn't really give a reason other than better candidate or team fit, if you want to be some help to him.
Other option would be contracting.
As this isn't your problem here, then I wouldn't really give a reason other than better candidate or team fit, if you want to be some help to him.
when I used to interview people, I'd spend as much time evaluating their sense of humour as I would their technical skills. There's only a need to have one person with technical brilliance in any team so long as he can guide the rest of the team, and so long as the team can work together happily.
alfaman said:
In my experience recruiting people at work - there are only 3 selection criteria :
1. can they do the job
2. are they motivated to do the job well.
3. will they fit in and work effectively with colleagues.
he clearly fails on 3. - totally legitimate reason for not offering a job - you can call it "didnt demonstrate team working skills @
and1. can they do the job
2. are they motivated to do the job well.
3. will they fit in and work effectively with colleagues.
he clearly fails on 3. - totally legitimate reason for not offering a job - you can call it "didnt demonstrate team working skills @
4. are they very nice looking
I find my clients always prefer a pretty woman to come and disrupt their office on a regular basis.
rlw said:
alfaman said:
In my experience recruiting people at work - there are only 3 selection criteria :
1. can they do the job
2. are they motivated to do the job well.
3. will they fit in and work effectively with colleagues.
he clearly fails on 3. - totally legitimate reason for not offering a job - you can call it "didnt demonstrate team working skills @
and1. can they do the job
2. are they motivated to do the job well.
3. will they fit in and work effectively with colleagues.
he clearly fails on 3. - totally legitimate reason for not offering a job - you can call it "didnt demonstrate team working skills @
4. are they very nice looking
I find my clients always prefer a pretty woman to come and disrupt their office on a regular basis.
Papa Hotel said:
Well, guess what? The dick was given the job. Not my choice but the boss bottled it. Now I have to look after him... Furious.
When's his first day? It'll be interesting to see how this develops - you must keep your avid readers informed.I'd have thought that if hes a patronising and annoying cockend in such a formal environment as an interview then imagine what he's like on a day to day basis!
I suspect your worst fears will soon be realised.
Have fun.
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