help been given my 1st written warning
help been given my 1st written warning
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MISS E

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5,190 posts

237 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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Hi all

I been in my current employment for 10 years and because of the snow on Wednesday to Friday I could not get into the office.
On the first day i emailed through - apparently that wasnt good enough. Thursday came and i didnt call in because the weather got much worse. Friday came and on Thursday night I said I would be taking friday as holiday.
I now have a written warning letter that will be kept on my records for 6 months.
My boss (man) I think is bulling me alot of my friends said he isa as I been in the job for 10 years work hard etcc... and the only female in our section of work.

Help any ideas?

Deva Link

26,934 posts

272 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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Move nearer to work?

anonymous-user

81 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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MISS E said:
On the first day i emailed through - apparently that wasnt good enough. Thursday came and i didnt call in because the weather got much worse.
I think the problem started here. Always phone and NEVER fail to communicate at all.

MISS E

Original Poster:

5,190 posts

237 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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musclecarmad said:
garyhun said:
MISS E said:
On the first day i emailed through - apparently that wasnt good enough. Thursday came and i didnt call in because the weather got much worse.
I think the problem started here. Always phone and NEVER fail to communicate at all.
yes exactly.

the weather has been very bad where i live here too but i haven't failed to be able to get out. did all your colleagues turn up for work.
No alot worked from home - I was'nt given that option, but failed to call in after 10 years of working at a company to be given a written warning?

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

228 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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MISS E said:
musclecarmad said:
garyhun said:
MISS E said:
On the first day i emailed through - apparently that wasnt good enough. Thursday came and i didnt call in because the weather got much worse.
I think the problem started here. Always phone and NEVER fail to communicate at all.
yes exactly.

the weather has been very bad where i live here too but i haven't failed to be able to get out. did all your colleagues turn up for work.
No alot worked from home - I was'nt given that option, but failed to call in after 10 years of working at a company to be given a written warning?
Do you have a company policy handbook that spells out exactly what is expected of you re: attendance, and what procedures are in place should you fail to meet them? i.e. what is there absentee policy?


anonymous-user

81 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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MISS E said:
musclecarmad said:
garyhun said:
MISS E said:
On the first day i emailed through - apparently that wasnt good enough. Thursday came and i didnt call in because the weather got much worse.
I think the problem started here. Always phone and NEVER fail to communicate at all.
yes exactly.

the weather has been very bad where i live here too but i haven't failed to be able to get out. did all your colleagues turn up for work.
No alot worked from home - I was'nt given that option, but failed to call in after 10 years of working at a company to be given a written warning?
Admit it's very harsh after 10 years (assuming you have a good record) but after 10 years I would have thought you'd know that calling in is a must!

BJG1

5,966 posts

239 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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You didn't phone in the first day, a reasonable amount of time before starting your shift and then didn't bother to communicate at all the next day? Unlucky to get a warning though not undeserved.

bonsai

2,015 posts

207 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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mmmm you don't really have a leg to stand on re: the warning if it's (presumably?) because you were AWOL on Thursday.

Playing the bullying card probably isn't that wise either, maybe if you'd done it before the warning... but not after.

If you want to get your own back, quit.

s.m.h.

5,733 posts

242 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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musclecarmad said:
garyhun said:
MISS E said:
On the first day i emailed through - apparently that wasnt good enough. Thursday came and i didnt call in because the weather got much worse.
I think the problem started here. Always phone and NEVER fail to communicate at all.
yes exactly.

the weather has been very bad where i live here too but i haven't failed to be able to get out. did all your colleagues turn up for work.
Whats with the "did your colleagues turn up" stuff.
Unless your colleagues live a) in the same house b) in the same street c) share the same car or transport to work, then theres no real comparison is there?

You only have to be stuck on a steep hill to be stranded. Plus if like us, there was a 1 day break between heavy snowfall (enough for the road to be manually cleared only for the same night to get covered again) then chances are youre not going anywhere.

Think there may be more to the story? Whats your attendance record like for the previous year?
Is this the straw that broke the donkeys back or is it a one-off? At least after 6 months it wont count... Again always speak to someone .

Catz

4,860 posts

238 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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I thought you had to get a verbal warning before a written warning?

Republik

4,525 posts

217 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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Take it on the chin, apologise and move on. Keep you head down for the next 6 months and phone in from now on.

Davie_GLA

6,874 posts

226 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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Suck it up.

Why on earth didn't you phone. And you should have phoned for every day you couldn't have made it.

No point in playing the sex / bullying card now. YOU messed THEM about.

As you were.

David.

TheCarpetCleaner

7,294 posts

229 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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Davie_GLA said:
Suck it up.

Why on earth didn't you phone. And you should have phoned for every day you couldn't have made it.

No point in playing the sex / bullying card now. YOU messed THEM about.

As you were.

David.
Direct and to the point yes

rb5230

11,657 posts

199 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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MISS E said:
and the only female in our section of work.
why would that make any difference at all? should you get preferencial treatment? for 10 years service then yes maybe, for being a woman hell no.

Rollcage

11,345 posts

219 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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I dont think email is an acceptable method of communicating absence, whatever the circumstances.

I would not accept it where I had any control over it - a phone call is needed!

In my previous job, a written warning would have been deemed appropriate for being AWOL.

Your current treatment should at least be seen to be fair - have any other employees been dealt with in the same way in the same circumstances?

As has been said, I dont really think you can complain too much if you didnt call in.

J500ANT

3,103 posts

266 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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Out of interest, did they reply to the email?

Deva Link

26,934 posts

272 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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J500ANT said:
Out of interest, did they reply to the email?
They were all OOTO. smile

Muzzer

3,814 posts

248 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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MISS E said:
Hi all

I been in my current employment for 10 years and because of the snow on Wednesday to Friday I could not get into the office.
On the first day i emailed through - apparently that wasnt good enough. Thursday came and i didnt call in because the weather got much worse. Friday came and on Thursday night I said I would be taking friday as holiday.
I now have a written warning letter that will be kept on my records for 6 months.
My boss (man) I think is bulling me alot of my friends said he isa as I been in the job for 10 years work hard etcc... and the only female in our section of work.

Help any ideas?
1. E-mailing, although not ideal, is at least a method of communicating to say you wouldn't be in. Was it acknowledged? Why didn't you phone?

2. Why didn't you phone on the second day? You say above that it was because the weather got much worse - does that make your phone not work?

3. Just because you've worked there for 10 years doesn't mean you're immune to disciplinary action. It's a little harsh but if you didn't call in to me I'd give you a warning

4. Please don't try and play the bullying/sexism card. It's scraping the bottom of the barrel. You did something wrong, apologise and work hard to make up for it.

TooLateForAName

4,922 posts

211 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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Check your employee handbook for the details of the policy with respect to absence and disciplinary procedures.

Did any other people do the same - did they also get warnings?

Are you in a union ? If so contact your rep. If not call CAB and have a word.

I think you were foolish not to talk to someone, but a written warning might be a bit harsh - Its pretty obvious why people weren't at work. (unless your facebook showed you blotto in a bar in malaga?)

I'd be concerned that in the current economic climate some employers are keen to find reasons to get rid of people easily - throwing warnings around makes me wonder.

Rollcage

11,345 posts

219 months

Monday 11th January 2010
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TooLateForAName said:
Check your employee handbook for the details of the policy with respect to absence and disciplinary procedures.

Did any other people do the same - did they also get warnings?

Are you in a union ? If so contact your rep. If not call CAB and have a word.

I think you were foolish not to talk to someone, but a written warning might be a bit harsh -[b] Its pretty obvious why people weren't at work. [b] (unless your facebook showed you blotto in a bar in malaga?)

I'd be concerned that in the current economic climate some employers are keen to find reasons to get rid of people easily - throwing warnings around makes me wonder.
Its not always obvious is it? If you had not heard anything and were thinking the person would be in to work, then maybe something has happened to them? Perhaps they have crashed coming in to work?

Not informing an employer of your non-attendance is piss-poor by any stretch of the imagination, pretty much whatever the circumstances.

She has screwed up and should accept the consequences.

All this about CAB and contact a rep is fairly typical of people thinking they are bloody well owed a living and should not accept responsibility for their actions.

It's always someone elses fault ,isn't it?