Shafted over a new job
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R TOY

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255 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Basically my son works in a lab in Nottingham (nice place but poor pay) applied for and was offered another job.
Hands in his notice at present work and has just 3 days to go. Arrives home last night and recieves a phone call from the job agency. The new company have now decided not to recruit and therefore the job is no longer available.
This leaves Matt in a mess having given up a perfectly good, if lowish paid job and having his new job snatched away at the 11th hour.
He has rent and living to pay for and is feeling well and truly shafted! He may even have to move back home eek
Anyone been in a similar situation ? Is there any point in trying to sue the new company for breach of contract, all done thro recruitment agency tho so he has no written agreement.
Any ideas appreciated Dave.

sday12

5,067 posts

238 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Don't hand your notice in until you have signed a contract for the new job?

ETA

Don't trust Employment Agencies, they're all sts.

Edited by sday12 on Thursday 1st April 12:06

sherman

15,140 posts

242 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Has he signed any contracts yet?

He wasnt nasty in how he handed in his notice at his current/old job. They may be willing to take him back.

Edited by sherman on Thursday 1st April 12:06

BerksBoy

130 posts

254 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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as above.

I wouldn't hand notice in until an offical offer letter stating start dates, salary etc had been received.

If they went back on this offer letter you could rightly seek compensation etc.

without anything in writing you don't have a leg to stand on.

Hope you/your lad has such a letter - if not it's a harsh lesson mate.

BB

Scott330ci

18,282 posts

228 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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No use but never hand in your notice until you have the offer in writing.

Arese

21,327 posts

214 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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It may be possible for him to retract his resignation. It would probably make his job pretty awkward though, unless he could sit down with his employer and discuss why he wanted to leave etc.

R TOY

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255 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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sherman said:
He wasnt nasty in how he handed in his notice at his current/old job. They may be willing to take him back.

Edited by sherman on Thursday 1st April 12:06
He,s leaving on good terms but of course they know that he is looking to move. I think he is going to ask if he can stay on for an extended period? Find out the outcome tonight.

NDA

25,310 posts

252 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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As above, you shouldn't resign without an offer letter (minimum) or a signed contract (ideal).

I would imagine he would have, at the bare minimum, some form of correspondence saying 'we're pleased to confirm our offer of a job, please report for duty at.......'. In which case he would have reasonable grounds for insisting they take him on or compensating him for his loss.

Scott330ci

18,282 posts

228 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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I know compensation culture crowd would be along soon but what is the figure you could claim.

Difference of time in between job's?

Silver993tt

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266 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Scott330ci said:
I know compensation culture crowd would be along soon but what is the figure you could claim.

Difference of time in between job's?
If nothing has been signed, the new company can do what they like and there's nothing wrong with that, it's their perogative. As other have said, wait until a contract has been signed and then resign. It's very simple.

Scott330ci

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228 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Silver993tt said:
Scott330ci said:
I know compensation culture crowd would be along soon but what is the figure you could claim.

Difference of time in between job's?
If nothing has been signed, the new company can do what they like and there's nothing wrong with that, it's their perogative. As other have said, wait until a contract has been signed and then resign. It's very simple.
I understand that - I meant if he had signed and was able to make a claim ...

boobles

15,251 posts

242 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Oh well, looks like all your "Forest" memorabilia will have to be moved out of the spare room & back to the loft! biggrin

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

259 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Its all very well saying "Don't hand your notice in until you get a contract" but IIRC is would be irrelevant anyway.
Presumably any contract has a probation period and a clause giving them the right to get rid without notice?
THus in this instance it wouldn't really make any difference.

Although, like the rest of the internet, I am no lawyer.

R TOY

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255 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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He has correspondance but from the agency rather than the actual company.
The woman who phoned him from the agency said in 7 years she had only known this happen one other time and that was down to bad references.
Think it will have to go in the book of 'lifes lessons' . A harsh one to learn tho.
Should get more info off him tonight and see what his old company have said. Ironically he had his leaving do on Tues night..

tim2100

6,288 posts

284 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Scott330ci said:
Silver993tt said:
Scott330ci said:
I know compensation culture crowd would be along soon but what is the figure you could claim.

Difference of time in between job's?
If nothing has been signed, the new company can do what they like and there's nothing wrong with that, it's their perogative. As other have said, wait until a contract has been signed and then resign. It's very simple.
I understand that - I meant if he had signed and was able to make a claim ...
If he had signed, they would have to pay to cover the notice period

R TOY

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Thursday 1st April 2010
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boobles said:
Oh well, looks like all your "Forest" memorabilia will have to be moved out of the spare room & back to the loft! biggrin
Weve got a French girl staying in his old room this summer ona work experience type thing, wonder if she'd mind sharing??

sherman

15,140 posts

242 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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R TOY said:
boobles said:
Oh well, looks like all your "Forest" memorabilia will have to be moved out of the spare room & back to the loft! biggrin
Weve got a French girl staying in his old room this summer ona work experience type thing, wonder if she'd mind sharing??

911motorsport

7,251 posts

260 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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Can't he tell them it was an April Fool's joke?

On a more serious note: I would want to be speaking directly with the company that offered the position, not the agent. I would also ask to see proof of the job offer that was made to the agency.

Something stinks.

Edited by 911motorsport on Thursday 1st April 13:04

ShadownINja

79,829 posts

309 months

Thursday 1st April 2010
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R TOY said:
boobles said:
Oh well, looks like all your "Forest" memorabilia will have to be moved out of the spare room & back to the loft! biggrin
Weve got a French girl staying in his old room this summer ona work experience type thing, wonder if she'd mind sharing??
Wait a sec (skidding noise plays in my head).

How do you get a French girl staying in ones spare room for work experience? A paying one, too, I am guessing?

R TOY

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Thursday 1st April 2010
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ShadownINja said:
Wait a sec (skidding noise plays in my head).

How do you get a French girl staying in ones spare room for work experience? A paying one, too, I am guessing?
You havn't got one ??

Sort of a friend of a friend type thing..No, not paying just a favour..