Do these people want to work?

[Greenie]

Just offered a chap a position with the company. Youngish chap has got experience for the position and the required qualifications. Not hugely paid but about £22k pa so well over min wage.

He has turned it down because he has to work away for 2 weeks in the year!

He has been unemployed for 4 months and has just got married no children. Has no other job offers.

So I guess he now continues living off the taxpayer.

I just don't get it.

[Eric Mc]

It's called "putting oneself out" and not many people are prepared to do this these days.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 30th July 13:24

[Vipers]

Tell him try working overseas offshore, 60 day trips, used to be 90 not that long ago. UK stints on boats are 28 day rotations.

And for gods sake don't let him joint the forces unless he has to go away from him mum a few days.

[igiveup]

The Guy working with me would kill for that wage right now, Not sure what the position is etc.. But he is a quick learner. Currently works in IT, see its an Electrical company you have.

[jas xjr]

heard a story on five life this morning. young lad on the dole is offered a course. he attends it, his parents also on the dole force him to withdraw from it as his alarm clock disturbs them in the morning.
ffs

[edc]

jas xjr said:

heard a story on five life this morning. young lad on the dole is offered a course. he attends it, his parents also on the dole force him to withdraw from it as his alarm clock disturbs them in the morning.
ffs

Maybe they could move him to his own council house ....

[Frankeh]

jas xjr said:

heard a story on five life this morning. young lad on the dole is offered a course. he attends it, his parents also on the dole force him to withdraw from it as his alarm clock disturbs them in the morning.
ffs

It's all bullst, dude.

[zippy3x]

Greenie said:

Just offered a chap a position with the company. Youngish chap has got experience for the position and the required qualifications. Not hugely paid but about £22k pa so well over min wage.

He has turned it down because he has to work away for 2 weeks in the year!

He has been unemployed for 4 months and has just got married no children. Has no other job offers.

So I guess he now continues living off the taxpayer.

I just don't get it.

Wow - experienced, qualified man turns down low paid job shocker. What is the world coming too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk

Knock yourself out

[Greenie]

igiveup said:

The Guy working with me would kill for that wage right now, Not sure what the position is etc.. But he is a quick learner. Currently works in IT, see its an Electrical company you have.

Position is based in Southampton. It is electrical however it wouldn't take much training as it is only semi-skilled. Attitute is more important than skills or experience.

[Vixpy1]

Vipers said:

Tell him try working overseas offshore, 60 day trips, used to be 90 not that long ago. UK stints on boats are 28 day rotations.

And for gods sake don't let him joint the forces unless he has to go away from him mum a few days.

One of my friends is 1st mate on one of the BP product carriers, he does 90 on, 90 off.

Pay is very good, but it must be hard on personal relationships

[Greenie]

Eric Mc said:

It's called "putting oneself out" and not many people are prepared to do this these days.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 30th July 13:24

I was really very surprised. One of the best parts of running a business is making a job offer to someone out of work-the normal response if genuine delight espeically if they have been out of work for a while. I believe most people on the dole do really want to find a job so it was a bit of an eye opener.

[cronk-flakes]

zippy3x said:

Greenie said:

Just offered a chap a position with the company. Youngish chap has got experience for the position and the required qualifications. Not hugely paid but about £22k pa so well over min wage.

He has turned it down because he has to work away for 2 weeks in the year!

He has been unemployed for 4 months and has just got married no children. Has no other job offers.

So I guess he now continues living off the taxpayer.

I just don't get it.

Wow - experienced, qualified man turns down low paid job shocker. What is the world coming too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk

Knock yourself out

But surely if he has been jobless for 4 months, he might as well take it for the sake of having a job.

OP - Perhaps he knew he would be looking for an upgraded job too soon after taking it and didn't want to mess you around.

[Who me ?]

Greenie said:

Just offered a chap a position with the company. Youngish chap has got experience for the position and the required qualifications. Not hugely paid but about £22k pa so well over min wage.

He has turned it down because he has to work away for 2 weeks in the year!

He has been unemployed for 4 months and has just got married no children. Has no other job offers.

So I guess he now continues living off the taxpayer.

I just don't get it.

Wish I was down that way - but sadly I'm too old ( at 63) to be considered for many jobs -so I'll sit quietly on pension credit till 65 -I could go for the usual trolley manager jobs at supermarkets and vegetate - but with HNC/HND electronics & comms - HMG can pay me ,or find me a job worthy of my quals and experience, offering me the pay I would expect to earn.

[mojjo1]

Greenie said:

igiveup said:

The Guy working with me would kill for that wage right now, Not sure what the position is etc.. But he is a quick learner. Currently works in IT, see its an Electrical company you have.

Position is based in Southampton. It is electrical however it wouldn't take much training as it is only semi-skilled. Attitute is more important than skills or experience.

Blimey

I'm after a job and would love 22k.

I'll pm you

[Ewan S]

Vixpy1 said:

Vipers said:

Tell him try working overseas offshore, 60 day trips, used to be 90 not that long ago. UK stints on boats are 28 day rotations.

And for gods sake don't let him joint the forces unless he has to go away from him mum a few days.

One of my friends is 1st mate on one of the BP product carriers, he does 90 on, 90 off.

Pay is very good, but it must be hard on personal relationships

How do you get into that industry? I've always wondered and as I'm free and single and could do with earning some decent cash without having the ability to spend it. I don't get seasick either!

[J B L]

Greenie said:

Eric Mc said:

It's called "putting oneself out" and not many people are prepared to do this these days.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 30th July 13:24

I was really very surprised. One of the best parts of running a business is making a job offer to someone out of work-the normal response if genuine delight espeically if they have been out of work for a while. I believe most people on the dole do really want to find a job so it was a bit of an eye opener.

They do. I am not an MD but I am in a position where I recruit sales and marketing people for my teams. Started recruiting again after the recent downturn and 100% of the people (that's 3 ) were so happy to get a new job.

However: you mention "well qualified and experienced" and offer 22k. What sort of industry/role is it? Because that was near as make no difference as when I started working...9 years ago (including bonuses though).

Granted, if he only refused on the basis of 2 weeks away a year then he's a real idiot and I'm sure you'll find a more willing candidate very soon.

[Cotty]

Frankeh said:

jas xjr said:

heard a story on five life this morning. young lad on the dole is offered a course. he attends it, his parents also on the dole force him to withdraw from it as his alarm clock disturbs them in the morning.
ffs

It's all bullst, dude.

He could buy one of those light clocks that wake you up with light rather than a ring. or a cheap timer, radio and headphones, not ideal but means to an end

[Greenie]

J B L said:

Greenie said:

Eric Mc said:

It's called "putting oneself out" and not many people are prepared to do this these days.

Edited by Eric Mc on Friday 30th July 13:24

I was really very surprised. One of the best parts of running a business is making a job offer to someone out of work-the normal response if genuine delight espeically if they have been out of work for a while. I believe most people on the dole do really want to find a job so it was a bit of an eye opener.

They do. I am not an MD but I am in a position where I recruit sales and marketing people for my teams. Started recruiting again after the recent downturn and 100% of the people (that's 3 ) were so happy to get a new job.

However: you mention "well qualified and experienced" and offer 22k. What sort of industry/role is it? Because that was near as make no difference as when I started working...9 years ago (including bonuses though).

Granted, if he only refused on the basis of 2 weeks away a year then he's a real idiot and I'm sure you'll find a more willing candidate very soon.

I didn't say "well qualified and experienced". He had experience of the job for a few months and the qualification involves a 2 day training course. It is a semi-skilled position and not rocket science. Having run the company for a few years I know the market and £22k is good money for the role.

You are right we did have a lucky escape so I'm glad about that. It's very difficult to make good recruitment decisions based on a couple of meetings so sometimes I get it wrong. Got it wrong this time but fortunately he saved me from him!

[Mattt]

Vixpy1 said:

Vipers said:

Tell him try working overseas offshore, 60 day trips, used to be 90 not that long ago. UK stints on boats are 28 day rotations.

And for gods sake don't let him joint the forces unless he has to go away from him mum a few days.

One of my friends is 1st mate on one of the BP product carriers, he does 90 on, 90 off.

Pay is very good, but it must be hard on personal relationships

I used to do 90 away, 14 home!

[SLCZ3]

Wimps all of you used to do 16 weeks in the desert and then 2 weeks at home even did a 6 month trip now and then.
Then you had Libya in the middle Nineties really a bag of sheet!!