Does your employer lie to you?

Poll: Does your employer lie to you?

Total Members Polled: 136

Yes, about stuff that matters (public sector): 15%
Yes, about stuff that doesnt matter (public): 1%
Yes, about stuff that matters (private): 51%
Yes, about stuff that doesnt matter (private): 1%
Not as far as I know (public sector): 3%
Not as far as I know (private sector): 28%
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shouldbworking

Original Poster:

4,800 posts

239 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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Possibly a Jobs & Employment Matters one, but I thought I would go for the wider audience here.

My employer are an absolute bunch of s, the only question is when would be best for me to get shot. I've never had an employer that is even remotely honest and wondered if theres any out there.

The public / private sector options are there to give me a better idea about what future options to pursue.

oldbanger

4,328 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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My immediate line management are exceptionally good (public sector). As to other parts of the organisation, HR are certainly not competent enough to stretch to lying.

Edited by oldbanger on Tuesday 24th August 18:44

MrsMiggins

2,867 posts

262 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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I suppose it depends on what you mean by lying.

If you mean my boss tells me nothing is going on when I ask and then the company makes an announcement a couple of days later proving that 'something was going on' then yes they do.

But that's just the way it is. The business has to be run a certain way and if that means keeping folks in the dark occasionally is required then so be it.

Sheets Tabuer

21,286 posts

242 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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Well if an employer told me my job was safe I'd start typing up the CV.

Animal

5,661 posts

295 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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I had a very frank and honest conversation with my CEO today and I trust him. If he didn't want me to know something he wouldn't lie, he'd just say that he wasn't going to tell me!

anonymous-user

81 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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I have never to this day accepted that various employers over the years have been truthful, not since motorola blatantly lied to the entire plant for 3 years.

R1 Loon

26,988 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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What a bizarre question.

Either you're a long way down the food chain and asking questions that you shouldn't be e.g. "How much profit are we making?" before the company has made an announcement to the Stock Exchange

Or you're higher up the foodchain, in which case you should know the importance of closed periods

Or even more likely you're a nosey bugger sticking your nose in where it's nneither welcome nor wanted. Prbably on the basis that in your limited opinion you know better than everyone else in the company.

TotalControl

8,295 posts

225 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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A large majority of the time. They can never do anything in a straight and honest manner.

shouldbworking

Original Poster:

4,800 posts

239 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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R1 Loon said:
What a bizarre question.

Either you're a long way down the food chain and asking questions that you shouldn't be e.g. "How much profit are we making?" before the company has made an announcement to the Stock Exchange

Or you're higher up the foodchain, in which case you should know the importance of closed periods

Or even more likely you're a nosey bugger sticking your nose in where it's nneither welcome nor wanted. Prbably on the basis that in your limited opinion you know better than everyone else in the company.
Thats a very finite set of scenarios.

How about this one : 'Noone is getting a payrise this year' when in actual fact 2/3 of the company did

How about saying you will get training that never materialises

How about saying your job will be more clearly defined so your responsibilities are clearer and then never doing it

How about saying its a 37.5 hour working week when its actually 45+

How about claiming those extra hours can be taken as toil? they cant.

There are a lot of ways that your employer can lie to you. I'm not just being a whining kfc monkey wondering why he hasn't been granted another star on his badge, I am a skilled, intelligent and educated person who just happens to be being treated like one of the aforementioned kfc monkeys.

sinizter

3,348 posts

213 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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shouldbworking said:
How about saying its a 37.5 hour working week when its actually 45+
I notice that the NHS is well represented then.

150bhp

908 posts

199 months

Tuesday 24th August 2010
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shouldbworking said:
R1 Loon said:
What a bizarre question.

Either you're a long way down the food chain and asking questions that you shouldn't be e.g. "How much profit are we making?" before the company has made an announcement to the Stock Exchange

Or you're higher up the foodchain, in which case you should know the importance of closed periods

Or even more likely you're a nosey bugger sticking your nose in where it's nneither welcome nor wanted. Prbably on the basis that in your limited opinion you know better than everyone else in the company.
Thats a very finite set of scenarios.

How about this one : 'Noone is getting a payrise this year' when in actual fact 2/3 of the company did

How about saying you will get training that never materialises

How about saying your job will be more clearly defined so your responsibilities are clearer and then never doing it

How about saying its a 37.5 hour working week when its actually 45+

How about claiming those extra hours can be taken as toil? they cant.

There are a lot of ways that your employer can lie to you. I'm not just being a whining kfc monkey wondering why he hasn't been granted another star on his badge, I am a skilled, intelligent and educated person who just happens to be being treated like one of the aforementioned kfc monkeys.
clap Here, here. I feel your anger, never believe a word my employer tells me.

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

208 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Tells us what he thinks he wants people to hear - if not the truth. Then tells another group a different answer. Its only ever a matter of time before the two groups mention things and we all get wound up.
Worse is when its told to customers - and he can't remember who he has told what !

Me - I call a spade a spade - and sh..

cymtriks

4,561 posts

272 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Not deliberately, well not often, but certainly out of ignorance.

Some fairly offensive remarks have been made over the years along the lines that I must have done something stupid as otherwise they'd have to face the truth about someone else who is far too clever to make a mistake or that they are just plain wrong.

The only manager to tell blatant lies about my work (no excuses here, thats what they were) isn't someone I reported to directly. There are also some cases of personally or politically motivated truth bending and a few of deliberatly deneying the reality of the situation thus making something that I was absolutely right about wrong.

Pothole

34,367 posts

309 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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OP, I think you should strike. It's always worked so well in the past.

whoami

13,199 posts

267 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Pothole said:
OP, I think you should strike. It's always worked so well in the past.
Good call.

hehe

shouldbworking

Original Poster:

4,800 posts

239 months

Wednesday 25th August 2010
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Decision is already made - ah'm oot.

I'd stick around for a forthcoming round of redundancies but unfortunately the colleagues in my area that id be competing with make me look like some sort of genius - no chance it'd get given to me.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

207 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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I work in a LA and the maangers in my immediate dept are very open.

The higher level up is quite open to an extent, i think because we are public sector its a lot more open.

gedi

32 posts

209 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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yes.
they pretend to pay me and i pretend to work.

Pints

18,451 posts

221 months

Friday 27th August 2010
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snowy sloper said:
...since motorola blatantly lied to the entire plant for 3 years.
I don't know about this. Care to elaborate? (I ask since they have large offices near to where I live and may be an option were I ever to leave my current employer.)

WEHGuy

1,347 posts

200 months

Sunday 29th August 2010
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Pints said:
snowy sloper said:
...since motorola blatantly lied to the entire plant for 3 years.
I don't know about this. Care to elaborate? (I ask since they have large offices near to where I live and may be an option were I ever to leave my current employer.)
Anyone?