Out of a C63 and into a 1M - thoughts?

[Carlton Banks]

Hi Guys,

Always loved the 1M and have been driving a C63 for 2.5 years - loved every minute of it and looking for something to replace it.

The options include a Vantage, Maser Granturismo, R8 but the car that looks like an itch I have to scratch is the 1M.

Will going from NA to forced induction give me the grin I am looking for?

[Slippydiff]

Carlton Banks said:

Hi Guys,

Always loved the 1M and have been driving a C63 for 2.5 years - loved every minute of it and looking for something to replace it.

The options include a Vantage, Maser Granturismo, R8 but the car that looks like an itch I have to scratch is the 1M.

Will going from NA to forced induction give me the grin I am looking for?

In a word, yes. The Merc is a sledgehammer, the 1M a scalpel. Though the 1 series interior will most likely seem a bit "low rent" after the Merc, the drive will have you just nipping down t'shops to get bread, milk, papers, paperclips at any available opportunity

It's proper hooligans car (and all the better for it)

[GentlePersuasion]

Carlton Banks said:

Hi Guys,

Always loved the 1M and have been driving a C63 for 2.5 years - loved every minute of it and looking for something to replace it.

The options include a Vantage, Maser Granturismo, R8 but the car that looks like an itch I have to scratch is the 1M.

Will going from NA to forced induction give me the grin I am looking for?

Haven't had the pleasure of piloting a C63, but if it's any use, the 1M is one of the most disappointing cars I've driven in terms of hype vs reality. Excelled at nothing, I thought.

My vote would be to keep the C63 and wait to see what BMW do with the F10 M3.

[cerb4.5lee]

Carlton Banks said:

Hi Guys,

Always loved the 1M and have been driving a C63 for 2.5 years - loved every minute of it and looking for something to replace it.

The options include a Vantage, Maser Granturismo, R8 but the car that looks like an itch I have to scratch is the 1M.

Will going from NA to forced induction give me the grin I am looking for?

I would think the 1M would feel pretty exciting to drive even after the C63, lighter & more nimble & crucially an involving gearbox & I always think blown engines feel quicker than N/A ones, but your C63 has one of my favourite engines ever & I think you would definitely miss that.

It's worth organising a decent test drive in a 1M, I have a huge soft spot for them & would love to own one.

[MCSL]

I had a 2011 C63 with PP+ and LSD. Absolutely loved it, huge fun and epic soundtrack. Sold it because i was offered a very good price for it (very nearly what i paid!), and the mpg was always a sore point as it was only really used for short, fast journeys. Haven't owned a 1M, but have briefly driven one, and quite fancy one as a 2nd car. There's no doubt the 1M is a prettier car - love the short, squat muscular appearance, but as a replacement for the C63, i'm not sure. If power, noise and pace are of importance, you'll have to tune the 1M. Standard vs standard, money/running costs no object.. i'd be back in a C63 i think.

Looks, rarity, and running costs (low depreciation) is what appeals to me with the 1M. In reality I reckon it'd be a short affair though..

[TrickyTrevM5]

Both are great looking cars and in truth I would probably go for either.

Thing is the 1m may return if the 2 series is any good and the 235i looks like a weapon too. I'd probably scratch a different itch because the 1 m will drop a lot of value once the 2m comes out in my view.

Then I'll buy one!,,,

[justin220]

How about an Evora S?

[Slippydiff]

GentlePersuasion said:

Excelled at nothing, I thought.

Excels at dividing opinion it seems

and drinking fuel,

and going sideways at the slightest provocation,

and retaining a large proportion of its original purchase price,

and getting admiring glances,

and being better vfm than the CSL when new

. . . . . . .

So come on, rather than saying it excels at nothing and was over-hyped, how about telling us why you thought it excelled at nothing and was over-hyped ?

[terryb]

I would bet good money that a remapped 1M would out accelerate a standard C63. Mine had 475 lbft and 415 bhp after a trip to DMS and weighs considerably less

[carl_w]

C63 for me

[paulmc]

Lovely car to look at but reports ( never driven one) complain about constant road noise and harsh ride. I think you would miss your C

My brother had a C220 company car for 6 months and I was really surprised how good it was ( I am pretty much a merc hater lol) I actually considered buying a C63 but lack of turbos put me off

You get cracking deals on new M5's and M3's at the moment and 0% finance. I could not resist a new M5.

[shim]

Both are very capable cars IMHO, and obviously not to be sniffed at.


But let's face it all Mercs are German taxis and if you buy one when you are under 50yo, chances are it will last 3 months before you feel depressed. And all 1 series are pig ugly, only surpassed by the awful Audi A7 so you are getting loads of glances but as you drive by they are all saying "cool, hold on a minute that car is hurting my eyes"

[shim]

GentlePersuasion said:

wait to see what BMW do with the F10 M3.

Or even M4 and then the M4 CSL which wil be here 2015.

[GentlePersuasion]

Slippydiff said:

So come on, rather than saying it excels at nothing and was over-hyped, how about telling us why you thought it excelled at nothing and was over-hyped ?

I have mate. Many a time.

However, here's a bulleted list of the first things that spring to mind*:

• Sounds boring
• Looks odd
• It was a £45k 1 series
• Driving position too high
• Numb steering
• Too heavy

*please note that these are just my opinions of the car

[kayzee]

As much as I love the 1M (and that is very much) I would still choose the GranTurismo any day I think! I'd still love to test both.

[joema]

Personally I'd rather have the C63, but if i wanted a change it would be an M3 or R8. Or maybe GTR. hmm.

I dont think you can go wrong

[rtg0616]

GentlePersuasion said:

Haven't had the pleasure of piloting a C63, but if it's any use, the 1M is one of the most disappointing cars I've driven in terms of hype vs reality. Excelled at nothing, I thought.

My vote would be to keep the C63 and wait to see what BMW do with the F10 M3.

Don't listen to the utter crap this guy speaks. At every opportunity he will be there to slag off what is one of the most talked about cars in recent years. It isn't raved about for no reason, just about everyone who drives one is smitten. Make up your own mind and go and test drive one. It isn't perfect, but what is? As for numb steering, I've never heard so much twaddle in all my life!
It doesn't compare to a C63 in terms of prestige, but it's alot cheaper and the v8 isn't everything. Have a 1M remapped and it turns from a serious bit of kit to an Exocet.

[GentlePersuasion]

rtg0616 said:

Don't listen to the utter crap this guy speaks. At every opportunity he will be there to slag off what is one of the most talked about cars in recent years. It isn't raved about for no reason, just about everyone who drives one is smitten. Make up your own mind and go and test drive one. It isn't perfect, but what is? As for numb steering, I've never heard so much twaddle in all my life!
It doesn't compare to a C63 in terms of prestige, but it's alot cheaper and the v8 isn't everything. Have a 1M remapped and it turns from a serious bit of kit to an Exocet.

Wowsers.

You've conveniently edited out the, "in my own opinion" part, but I'll let that slide on account that I've deemed you to be a bit special.

Once you've settled down a little bit though buddy, take a peek at my garage; it's not like I haven't had the ability to chose

But just to provide a bit of content to your arm waving splutter: have a shot in a Porsche 997 (the car that I bought over the 1M) and then come back to me on steering feel. Ok?

Like I said, we're all entitled to our opinions, but sometimes it's useful if one can actually base such an opinion on actual fact.

[///Mike]

There is a reason that plenty of CSL owners are swapping into 1Ms. Its the best thing to come out of Munich since. I ordered an M3 in December because its more comfortable for the mileage that I do. Given the choice of taking my M3 or my friends 1M for a thrash around Wales for the weekend, I would take the 1M. It feels a lot quicker than my M3 regardless of whether it actually is or not and thats a great quality in itself imo.

The chap I am talking about with the 1M had a C63 before the 1M just out of interest and I often laugh at his inability to keep a car for more than 6 months. He has had the 1M for well over a year now which if you knew him like I do speaks volumes. Its also inline with what a lot of the motoring press have said. It just keeps on giving, makes you smile everytime you get in it and is generally an infecious little car.

With a remap I could imagine it being absolutely mental!

Edited by ///Mike on Friday 14th June 15:51

[Pugland53]

GentlePersuasion said:

rtg0616 said:

Don't listen to the utter crap this guy speaks. At every opportunity he will be there to slag off what is one of the most talked about cars in recent years. It isn't raved about for no reason, just about everyone who drives one is smitten. Make up your own mind and go and test drive one. It isn't perfect, but what is? As for numb steering, I've never heard so much twaddle in all my life!
It doesn't compare to a C63 in terms of prestige, but it's alot cheaper and the v8 isn't everything. Have a 1M remapped and it turns from a serious bit of kit to an Exocet.

Wowsers.

You've conveniently edited out the, "in my own opinion" part, but I'll let that slide on account that I've deemed you to be a bit special.

Once you've settled down a little bit though buddy, take a peek at my garage; it's not like I haven't had the ability to chose

But just to provide a bit of content to your arm waving splutter: have a shot in a Porsche 997 (the car that I bought over the 1M) and then come back to me on steering feel. Ok?

Like I said, we're all entitled to our opinions, but sometimes it's useful if one can actually base such an opinion on actual fact.

I agree we're all entitled to our opinions, but having owned a 1M for 18 months I happen to disagree with yours. As for facts, the 1M was £40k not £45k.